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Titans 47 @ Lions 10
Final
Thu, 11/27/08 11:30am
18 Picks - 95% 1 Pick - 5%
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Seahawks 9 @ Cowboys 34
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Thu, 11/27/08 3:15pm
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Cardinals 20 @ Eagles 48
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Thu, 11/27/08 7:15pm
14 Picks - 70% 6 Picks - 30%
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49ers 10 @ Bills 3
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Sun, 11/30/08 12:00pm
1 Pick - 5% 20 Picks - 95%
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Saints 20 @ Buccaneers 23
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Sun, 11/30/08 12:00pm
6 Picks - 29% 15 Picks - 71%
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Panthers 35 @ Packers 31
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Sun, 11/30/08 12:00pm
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Giants 23 @ Commanders 7
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Sun, 11/30/08 12:00pm
18 Picks - 86% 3 Picks - 14%
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Broncos 34 @ Jets 17
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Sun, 11/30/08 12:00pm
1 Pick - 5% 20 Picks - 95%
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Colts 10 @ Browns 6
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Sun, 11/30/08 12:00pm
20 Picks - 95% 1 Pick - 5%
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Ravens 34 @ Bengals 3
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Sun, 11/30/08 12:00pm
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Dolphins 16 @ Rams 12
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Sun, 11/30/08 12:00pm
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Falcons 22 @ Chargers 16
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Sun, 11/30/08 3:05pm
15 Picks - 71% 6 Picks - 29%
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Chiefs 20 @ Raiders 13
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Sun, 11/30/08 3:15pm
8 Picks - 38% 13 Picks - 62%
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Steelers 33 @ Patriots 10
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Sun, 11/30/08 3:15pm
10 Picks - 48% 11 Picks - 52%
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Bears 14 @ Vikings 34
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Sun, 11/30/08 7:15pm
4 Picks - 19% 17 Picks - 81%
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Jaguars 17 @ Texans 30
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Mon, 12/1/08 7:30pm
6 Picks - 29% 15 Picks - 71%
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Season Record126 - 65
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Scotttime Record458 - 267
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Titans 47 @ Lions 10

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Jeremy
There's a big push to get the crappy Lions off Thanksgiving. I disagree with those people. The Lions are a Thanksgiving tradition. Besides, they usually play pretty well on Thanksgiving and like 70% of the "marquee" matchups when the schedule is being made end up being crap fests anyway.
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The Titans are clearly no good anymore, but I think they can still hold of the Lions this week.
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Sarah
Happy Thanksgiving! Here's to the Lions getting their first win. Still not going to pick them.
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Jon
I enjoy watching football on Thanksgiving.

Seahawks 9 @ Cowboys 34

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The Cowboys are awesome. The Cowboys are struggling. The Cowboys are turning it around. The Cowboys suck. The Cowboys are finished. The Cowboys are back!

Seriously, Mr NFL Commentator, it's enough already.
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Matt
Seattle? I didn't know they still had a team.
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Cream corn, anyone?
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Jon
With Hasselbeck back, maybe Seattle could play well.

Cardinals 20 @ Eagles 48

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Luckily we will be at one of 27 houses that actually get the NFL Network during this game.
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K-War for MVP!!!
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Sarah
The Eagles are a poorly coached team. Wow.
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Jon
Since most of you won't see this game, I'll just encourage everyone, including myself, to be thankful and to show that thanks in the way you live.

Panthers 35 @ Packers 31

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There are a few teams in the league that have had the perception of them by national pundits swing wildly from week to week, and the Packers are one of them. They weren't missing Favre at all, then they "slumped", then they "struggled," then after one big victory they were "hot" and "the team to beat in the NFC North." Then one embarrassing loss after that and their season is "in trouble."

Look people, the Bears and Vikings can't both win this game tonight, so a win would put the Packers tied for 2nd, one game back in the division. I don't think it's time to hit the panic button.
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I have no idea if the Panthers are good or not, though I guess I could say the same thing about the Packers.
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Wow. How embarrassing....
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Jon
The NFC North is pathetic.

Bears 14 @ Vikings 34

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This game means a lot more to the Vikings than it does to the Bears, which means they will lose it in some gut wrenching display of futility.
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Even if the Vikings win, I'm sure it will be in a frustrating and unenjoyable way.
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Well are these two teams the only ones vying for the crappy NFC North or are the Packers going to try something?
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Jon
I'm not optimistic, but Chicago has gotten worse since the last game and Minnesota is probably a bit better.

Jaguars 17 @ Texans 30

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I've really been phoning in these comments lately, and waiting until the last minute to do so. Has anyone noticed?
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It seems to me that both these teams should be better than they are.
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Just want to reiterate ... Happy Thanksgiving!
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Cyber Monday: Real phenomenon or logical sounding urban legend? Discuss.
face.bmpCarlos44ec - Tag This
11/24/2008 @ 01:16:31 PM
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Yeah, I picked the Panthers, WHAT.

didn't really want to, we'll see how the Packers do tonight, then I'll rethink it.
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l_ad719f619e5ad7f4b593814445bf63ec.jpgRUFiO1984 - 219 Posts
11/24/2008 @ 10:53:51 PM
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Lions over Titans! WOOHOOO!!!
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face.bmpCarlos44ec - "If at first you don't succeed, failure may be your style."
11/25/2008 @ 07:53:05 AM
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I see your mental process...

Titans first loss + short week = a demoralized team. That x your unwarranted optimism = a victory.

Unfortunately I don't see it... we're talking about the Lions here...
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11/25/2008 @ 08:51:22 AM
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Plus, the Lions have to get their first/only win against the Vikings. It's inevitable.
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l_ad719f619e5ad7f4b593814445bf63ec.jpgRUFiO1984 - 219 Posts
11/25/2008 @ 02:15:17 PM
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Dunno if anyone has posted about this but football in 3d?
http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/the_sporting_blog/entry/view/15047/nfl_in_3d_the_future_is_now!_
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11/25/2008 @ 04:55:19 PM
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Upset this week Packers defeat Panther 34-27
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
11/25/2008 @ 05:41:58 PM
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I'm actually more inclined to pick the Packers this week than I was last week; in other words, I feel much less homerish picking the Packers this week then I did last week. This is a home game anyway.
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2887.gifAlex - 3619 Posts
11/25/2008 @ 10:25:53 PM
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face.bmpCarlos44ec - Since 1980!
11/26/2008 @ 07:35:52 AM
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Does this mean something for NFL football? I dug this story too, but isn't this a "Things that will blow your mind" kind of deal?
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2887.gifAlex - You've got to trust your instinct, and let go of regret
11/26/2008 @ 12:28:19 PM
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I was trying to Internet and eat a grilled cheese sandwich at the same time and when I couldn't find that thread within a minute I just dumped it here. Although if the Packers don't win this week then it is a visual of their season going up in a flaming ball of fire.
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face.bmpCarlos44ec - "Always remember that you are unique. Just like everybody else."
11/26/2008 @ 03:33:58 PM
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Way to redeem yourself!

I almost expected it to be a comment on a sign of the "Second Coming" or similar comment.
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newalex.jpgAlex - 3619 Posts
11/26/2008 @ 05:10:02 PM
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"Just when I thought you couldn't get any dumber, you go and do something like this... and totally redeem yourself!"
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11/26/2008 @ 06:29:35 PM
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In honor of Thanksgiving (and since Alex already went off-topic) here is a clip from a classic Thanksgiving episode of WKRP in Cincinnati.

Background info for the clip - WKRP Station Manager Arthur Carlson (played by Gordon Jump) has come up with a big Thanksgiving promotion involving 20 live turkeys, but keeps the details a secret from everybody (including his staff).

For the full episode go here.
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11/28/2008 @ 10:40:39 AM
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Possibly the worst series of Thanksgiving day games ever. The point spread between the winners and losers was 129-39. Still a good time though.
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sarah.jpgSarah - 4691 Posts
11/30/2008 @ 02:54:42 PM
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How dumb are Packer fans who attend home games? Hmmm.... offense going for it on 4th and inches, they stand up and cheer the loudest they have all game. You should have to take some sort of intelligence test before you get the privilege to see your team at home. I know we've been over this before, but it's just plain embarrassing.

I like how at 1st and goal Rodgers actually had to tell people to shut the f up.
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11/30/2008 @ 03:04:40 PM
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Not that I'm a coach, but why not go for it on 4th and goal? If you don't get it, Carolina has to start on the 1 instead of getting another huge kickoff return and starting close to mid-field. If you do get it, then hey touchdown and the worst Carolina can do is tie (save for a 2 point conversion).
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newalex.jpgAlex - 3619 Posts
11/30/2008 @ 03:21:43 PM
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Or why not call a pass on 2nd or 3rd down? Carolina sold out on the run every time, run the stupid play action pass that works 80% of the time for every team. To steal from the Bill Simmons rules of engagement, would you feel confident kicking a FG from the 1 yard line in a tie game with 2 minutes left in Madden? No, you'd go for the TD. Also, what exactly was Chillar covering on that Steve Smith catch?
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - 9563 Posts
11/30/2008 @ 03:24:13 PM
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Not that I'm a coach, but I don't understand the Woodson move to safety. The man has been lights out at corner this year. The Vikings gameplan vs the Packers was just to concede that Bernard Berrian was a lost cause for a week.

Also, maybe now it is time to at least start hooking up the panic button.

Edit: The Packers will now be two games back, and if the Bears win they control the head to head tie breaker, so the Vikings would also essentially be 2 games back with 4 to play. The Bears can go a long way toward wrapping up the division tonight.
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11/30/2008 @ 06:07:29 PM
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Woodson was at safety due to injury.

I actually am rooting for the Bears tonight. It is the best for the Pack.

I agree with Sarah, go for it on 4th down. it's obvious your defense sucks.

Packers need to win out, need a Bears win tonight, and and another Viking and Bear loss as well as beating the Bears at home.
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vignette.bmpCarlos44ec - Tag This
11/30/2008 @ 06:23:28 PM
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Sarah Wrote - Today @ 02:54:42 PM
How dumb are Packer fans who attend home games? Hmmm.... offense going for it on 4th and inches, they stand up and cheer the loudest they have all game. You should have to take some sort of intelligence test before you get the privilege to see your team at home. I know we've been over this before, but it's just plain embarrassing. I like how at 1st and goal Rodgers actually had to tell people to shut the f up.


But did you see that fan slap the game ball away from the visiting fans after that TD? It was a fine example of Douche-Baggery, but damn was that funny!
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11/30/2008 @ 06:26:54 PM
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Carlos44ec Wrote - Today @ 06:23:28 PM


But did you see that fan slap the game ball away from the visiting fans after that TD? It was a fine example of Douche-Baggery, but damn was that funny!


Jeremy and I both thought the same thing, minus the funny part. Imagine being at a game and a guy from your favorite team scores a touchdown and tries to hand you the ball, but instead some jerk slaps it away. What a dream crusher.
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face.bmpCarlos44ec - 2079 Posts
11/30/2008 @ 07:04:23 PM
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yeah yeah, the guy has no soul.

Still funny...
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11/30/2008 @ 07:09:29 PM
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RUFiO1984 Wrote - 11/24/2008 @ 10:53:51 PM
Lions over Titans! WOOHOOO!!!


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scott.jpgScott - On your mark...get set...Terrible!
11/30/2008 @ 08:22:01 PM
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Did anyone see the phantom pass interference call that took an interception away from the Giants against the Redskins. Add that to the 2008 highlight real of "what is wrong with the refs this season" video tribute.

The Packers have lost 4 games by 4 points or less. In other words, they are a play or two in 4 different games from possibly having 9 wins already. (Now don't be that guy/girl and say something like "well, they could easily have lost a bunch of other games besides that)
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hoochpage.JPGSarah - 4691 Posts
11/30/2008 @ 08:29:43 PM
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A Favre play or two away from winning 4 other games? Sorry had to say it.
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11/30/2008 @ 11:31:11 PM
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Sarah Wrote - Today @ 08:29:43 PM
A Favre play or two away from winning 4 other games? Sorry had to say it.


I saw that same Favre play at the end of the game today. No thanks.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
12/01/2008 @ 07:45:07 AM
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Sarah Wrote - Yesterday @ 09:29:43 PM
A Favre play or two away from winning 4 other games? Sorry had to say it.


The way some of these game have gone, they could be 11-1 if they still had Favre.
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vignette.bmpCarlos44ec - 2079 Posts
12/01/2008 @ 09:11:32 AM
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Carlos44ec Wrote - Yesterday @ 06:23:28 PM
Sarah Wrote - Yesterday @ 02:54:42 PM
How dumb are Packer fans who attend home games? Hmmm.... offense going for it on 4th and inches, they stand up and cheer the loudest they have all game. You should have to take some sort of intelligence test before you get the privilege to see your team at home. I know we've been over this before, but it's just plain embarrassing. I like how at 1st and goal Rodgers actually had to tell people to shut the f up.
But did you see that fan slap the game ball away from the visiting fans after that TD? It was a fine example of Douche-Baggery, but damn was that funny!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5jeNpBJ3xw
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - 9563 Posts
12/01/2008 @ 10:16:12 AM
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Midway though the second quarter things looked bleak for the Vikings. The offense was sputtering and the defense was struggling to cover anyone. The only thing going for them was that they were leaving so many guys wide open it seemed to confuse Kyle Orton. Two third down stops followed by second chances via penalty, and a backbreaking run to the one yard line and it looked like it was going to be another season of wasted potential for the Vikings.

Then the Vikings seized the game, and their season back, on an unbeatable 1-2 punch of lock-down defense and a perfectly timed bomb. The Bears had 4 shots from the one yard line to make the game 14-3 and take control of the NFC North, instead in perhaps one of the greatest 2 minutes and 9 seconds in team history, the Vikings found themselves takin' it back.

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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - 1.21 Gigawatts!?!?
12/01/2008 @ 11:26:15 AM
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PackOne Wrote - Yesterday @ 11:31:11 PM
Sarah Wrote - Yesterday @ 08:29:43 PM
A Favre play or two away from winning 4 other games? Sorry had to say it.


I saw that same Favre play at the end of the game today. No thanks.


You've got to be kidding. The NFL is full of close games and "should haves" and "could haves" but ultimately the Aaron Rogers version of the Packers need a flawless finish to have a winning record and an excellent finish to be .500. He certainly hasn't played terribly, but many games come down to a play here, a key first down there, and Rodgers isn't getting it done as well as Favre would be.

The "look to the future" move was the right one 2-3 years ago, this year the Packers were built to win now, and you really have to have your fingers in your ears and eyes closed if you still think the Packers made the right move.

13-3 was likely a bit of a mirage last season, but there's no way Favre has this year's team in a position where they'll be lucky to be .500 either.
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2887.gifAlex - Who controls the past now controls the future
12/01/2008 @ 01:09:08 PM
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Carlos44ec Wrote - Today @ 09:11:32 AM
Carlos44ec Wrote - Yesterday @ 06:23:28 PM
Sarah Wrote - Yesterday @ 02:54:42 PM
How dumb are Packer fans who attend home games? Hmmm.... offense going for it on 4th and inches, they stand up and cheer the loudest they have all game. You should have to take some sort of intelligence test before you get the privilege to see your team at home. I know we've been over this before, but it's just plain embarrassing. I like how at 1st and goal Rodgers actually had to tell people to shut the f up.
But did you see that fan slap the game ball away from the visiting fans after that TD? It was a fine example of Douche-Baggery, but damn was that funny!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5jeNpBJ3xw


Williams should know better, you need to hand it off not toss it into the mob. Sign that guy up to play safety!
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2887.gifAlex - 3619 Posts
12/01/2008 @ 01:10:23 PM
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Living the High Life? Since when you do you drink beer?
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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - Robots don't say 'ye'
12/01/2008 @ 01:19:08 PM
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Alex Wrote - Today @ 01:10:23 PM
Living the High Life? Since when you do you drink beer?


He sang the national anthem too.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
12/01/2008 @ 02:38:54 PM
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Jeremy Wrote - Today @ 12:26:15 PM
The "look to the future" move was the right one 2-3 years ago, this year the Packers were built to win now, and you really have to have your fingers in your ears and eyes closed if you still think the Packers made the right move.


I disagree with this statement 100%. Your premises are ok, but your conclusion is wrong (in my opinion). The Packers do not have the defense required to be a threat to a great offensive team (look at the Saints game). I don't necessarily think they are built to win now. Their offense consists of good receivers, a shaky O-line, questionable running backs, and a first year starting QB. That's not a win now formula, even with a good, veteran QB.

Although, for the record, I do think the Packers would have a better record with Favre, I just don't think they would be Super Bowl contenders.
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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - 9563 Posts
12/01/2008 @ 02:54:30 PM
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Well, I don't think they would be Super Bowl contenders either. Nor is Rodgers the only problem, far from it. However, this is still much the same team as last year, and the Jets won 4 games last season, so it's not exactly crazy to conclude that Favre just has something, even if the numbers stack up, and even if Aaron is playing good ball, that Aaron doesn't.

In hindsight, yes, perhaps this team isn't as "built for now" as it appeared to be back before the season. However, back before the season is when this decision was made.

I stand by my "Hitting on 20" blackjack analogy, which I may or may not have made on here. I'm positive I did, but the search says no. Anyway, the gist is that hitting on 20 is stupid, and hindsight doesn't change that fact, even if an ace comes up.
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jon.jpgJon - 3463 Posts
12/02/2008 @ 12:05:48 PM
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Scott Wrote - 11/30/2008 @ 08:22:01 PM
The Packers have lost 4 games by 4 points or less. In other words, they are a play or two in 4 different games from possibly having 9 wins already. (Now don't be that guy/girl and say something like "well, they could easily have lost a bunch of other games besides that)


Not to pick on Scott, because this is something we've all said about our teams in the past, but I think I'm putting forward a motion that starting next year, all commenters making allusions to the fact that some team is some number of plays away from being such and such a record, shall be required to go back and strike such comments from the record or face a merciless group zero-nutting for that comment.
To me, it's been well established that this "one or two plays" phenomenon isn't really an exception, but the rule in the NFL. Besides, it only gets brought up when you're talking about how much better a team could be. I mean, not to pick on the Packers, but they were about 5 plays away from being 8-8 last year. And it's like that for teams all over. So yeah, I'm being that guy.
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2887.gifAlex - 3619 Posts
12/02/2008 @ 01:05:40 PM
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The statement does serve to separate the "middle class" from the Detroit Lions class emoticon

As a generalized statement it is pretty meaningless. If you can specifically point out the plays and there was at least a 50% chance that the play could've gone the team's way, then I think it's semi-interesting point. Like with Denver this year, which is a case of how much worse they actually could be at this point.
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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - Robots don't say 'ye'
12/02/2008 @ 01:06:27 PM
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Jon Wrote - Today @ 12:05:48 PM
Scott Wrote - 11/30/2008 @ 08:22:01 PM
The Packers have lost 4 games by 4 points or less. In other words, they are a play or two in 4 different games from possibly having 9 wins already. (Now don't be that guy/girl and say something like "well, they could easily have lost a bunch of other games besides that)


Not to pick on Scott, because this is something we've all said about our teams in the past, but I think I'm putting forward a motion that starting next year, all commenters making allusions to the fact that some team is some number of plays away from being such and such a record, shall be required to go back and strike such comments from the record or face a merciless group zero-nutting for that comment.
To me, it's been well established that this "one or two plays" phenomenon isn't really an exception, but the rule in the NFL. Besides, it only gets brought up when you're talking about how much better a team could be. I mean, not to pick on the Packers, but they were about 5 plays away from being 8-8 last year. And it's like that for teams all over. So yeah, I'm being that guy.
Yeah, plus there's a difference between "these games are close, therefor we were a play or two away" and a situation where you actually DO make that play and it get's taken away, or a person drops a wide open game winning TD, or something.

I mean, "a play or two away" could mean you lost by 7 to14.

Edit: It seems Alex and I were simultaneously typing essentially the same point.
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12/02/2008 @ 03:49:37 PM
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Jeremy Wrote - Today @ 02:06:27 PM
I mean, "a play or two away" could mean you lost by 7 to14.


Ok, everyone on the planet knows this is not even close to what I meant.
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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - 1.21 Gigawatts!?!?
12/02/2008 @ 04:00:42 PM
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Well, only like 17% of the planet speaks English, and not all of those people are literate. emoticon
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