NFL 2006 Season Week 3 Picks

	Jeremy - 9563 Posts 09/20/2006 @ 10:17:34 AM
Any games missing this time?		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 09/20/2006 @ 10:22:26 AM
I think they are all there. 14/14.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Micah - 584 Posts 09/20/2006 @ 01:59:52 PM
I didn't now where else to post this as there is no longer a forum, but woe are the survivors of Junior year Chemistry...I guess we should have created the element PRN http://www.leadertelegram.com/story.asp?id=73677		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9563 Posts 09/20/2006 @ 03:22:12 PM
Yeah, I was going to make a blog about it, then I forgot.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 09/20/2006 @ 03:45:02 PM
did you guys have him in high school?		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9563 Posts 09/20/2006 @ 04:37:23 PM
Yeah, I'll make a blog about it later.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - 4691 Posts 09/20/2006 @ 08:04:46 PM
That's what united all of you guys, your 7th period chemistry class. Memorial, always something wrong over there. Glad I went to North...		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - As Seen On The Internet 09/20/2006 @ 09:35:16 PM
You make it sound like we all met there.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - How do you use these things? 09/20/2006 @ 09:42:03 PM
Well, you didn't, but I sure heard enough about that dang class.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Micah - 584 Posts 09/21/2006 @ 10:59:51 AM
Where do you think we got all our morals?		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9563 Posts 09/21/2006 @ 02:44:01 PM
In the interest of keeping this going the Vikings and Packers are ranked 14 and 30 on the power rankings, 13 and 15th offensivly, and 7 and 27th defensively.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - You're going to have to call your hardware guy. It's not a software issue. 09/21/2006 @ 02:54:12 PM
Let's see, Ryan Longwell leaves the Packers for the Vikings, kicks 2 game winning field goals in the first 2 weeks, throws his first career pass attempt, throws his first career completion, throws his first career touchdown pass; kicks 3 field goals, 2 extra points, and throws a touchdown in a game when the vikings scored 17 points. So in reality, the Vikings Kicker is ranked 14 among NFL teams. From the collective Packer Nation, you are welcome.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - Pie Racist 09/21/2006 @ 03:05:56 PM
Don't forget that pass he threw.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Sarah - How do you use these things? 09/21/2006 @ 08:08:54 PM
Detroit loses and the Twins are losing 4-0 man.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - How do you use these things? 09/24/2006 @ 12:18:59 PM
Favre got his 400th in style. That was quite the play by Jennings!!!!		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - 4691 Posts 09/24/2006 @ 12:27:43 PM
So we just don't have a defense?		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Alex - I was too weak to give in Too strong to lose 09/24/2006 @ 12:37:23 PM
Carol did something good for once!		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Sarah - 4691 Posts 09/24/2006 @ 01:28:43 PM
Did you just call Ahmad Carroll a girl's name?		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Alex - 3619 Posts 09/24/2006 @ 02:07:03 PM
I think I did. I thought this would be the week where Houston finally turned it around. How foolish of me.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - 4691 Posts 09/24/2006 @ 02:56:03 PM
2:00 warning - that was a huge stop		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - 4691 Posts 09/24/2006 @ 03:02:02 PM
OH MY GOD		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - The pig says "My wife is a slut?" 09/24/2006 @ 04:33:52 PM
Speaking of snatching defeat from victory. This isn't sour grapes because it was apparent from the get go. Both times the Bears have had a decent year the year before they have been the most annyoning, obnoxious, loudmouth pricks. It came to a head when the guy behind me and a couple down, drunk out of his mind falls on the row ahead of him, knocking them into the row ahead of them. The guy apologises, no one says anything to him cause we're worried about the fan that got checked in the back by the 400 pound Bears fan, and the guy that he, in turn, fell completely on top of. Again, no one said anything to him (which is a feat because he had been yelling about the Vikings sucking "giant hairy d**k" the entire game and started yelling about molesting and raping cheerleaders turing an inter-quarter cheerbreak.) He then begins to SCREAM "Oh f**k you I slipped!!" over and over again to know one in particular. And ends up screaming at the 2 guys he knocked over, despite them not doing or saying anything.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.
Jeremy messed with this at 09/24/2006 4:35:33 pm

	Scott - 6225 Posts 09/24/2006 @ 05:43:46 PM
I think bears fans are just like that. I witnessed something similar when I was at Lambeau for a Bears game. The jist of it was a bears fan just being drunk and obnoxious. Mark the time: The vikings season is over, and the Packers are now super bowl bound!!!		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - Broadcast in stunning 1080i 09/24/2006 @ 06:20:05 PM
I can deal with obnoxiousness, you just have to do a little bit more to earn it, IMO.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - 4691 Posts 09/24/2006 @ 06:22:38 PM
ISO?		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 09/24/2006 @ 08:26:11 PM
MBL?		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 09/24/2006 @ 08:27:45 PM
Brett Favre is ESPN's Sunday Stud!!		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 09/25/2006 @ 08:45:05 AM
Stupid Matt Hasselbeck. He goes and score a total of 13 points in the first 2 weeks compared to 45 by michael vick. So I bench Hass and what does he do? He goes and throws 5 touchdowns and score 29 points. I think Vick has a pretty good chance to put up some big numbers against the Saints, but I would have been in 2nd place already if I would have started Hass. But, I still have Vick, Bush, and Atlanta's Defense playing tonight. That should help quite a bit.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - Always thinking of, but never about, the children. 09/25/2006 @ 10:30:31 AM
That's why you play your best players and if you lose the matchup game once in a while so be it. In my other league my uncle benched Palmer because Kurt Warner had a better matchup (Rams) then he Palmer did (Steelers). Palmer got 20 some points and Warner got 2. Don't overthink it people. :)		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - Cube Phenomenoligist 09/25/2006 @ 10:44:22 AM
When I first read your comment I thought maybe you intended to make up a new acronym. "So I benched h'ass". Then a couple mintues later I realized it was just a completely arbitrary shortning of Hasselbeck.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 09/25/2006 @ 11:32:58 AM
I wasn't really playing the matchup game, but Hass(I played hockey with a guy in high school named Hasselberger and everyone called him Hass) really hasn't been that impressive yet and Michael Vick has. Now, I don't really regret my move yet. If Vick gets about 6 points I might regret it.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Alex - 3619 Posts 09/25/2006 @ 01:38:15 PM
I like to play the matchup game once in a while, because where's the fun in just playing the same lineup every week? And I would say that judging by the statistics of the first 2 weeks that the Rams pass defense is just as good as the Steelers. So I can only assume that the perceived "better matchup" was due to the general media consensus that Pitt has a good D and no one has cared about any aspect of the Rams for the last 4 years. So the real lesson here is do your homework yourself if you're going to play the matchup game. Then there's always the gut/personal preference method. I have 5 fantasy teams and 2 salary cap teams and none of them have Hasselbeck or Vick. And honestly I'm not to sure who I would have started. Probably Hasselbeck. He was at home, the Giants got torched by McNabb last week, and even though he hadn't done much yet he's probably good enough (or at least his team is good enough) that I'd have given him one more game to do something. Vick is on the road in what will probably be the most emotionally charged game of the season, the Saints are 2-0 and sans the 1st quarter last week they look really good, so if the Saints come out blazing and get a lead then Vick has to throw a lot which could be good or bad for stats I guess. I'd say bad is more likely though. I'll go 31 - 20 Saints, 250 yds 2 picks 0 ptd and 50 yds 1 rtd for Vick. Not that anyone asked my opinion about any of this.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - Resident Tech Support 09/25/2006 @ 02:21:19 PM
7 fantasy teams?!?!? how do find time to eat?		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Alex - I was too weak to give in Too strong to lose 09/25/2006 @ 06:45:40 PM
I knew I was forgetting to do something this weekend!		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 09/25/2006 @ 11:01:24 PM
what a crappy crappy game. Not only did Vick, Bush, or atlanta's defense fail to score as many points as Hasselbeck, but I would have been in 2nd place if I would have kept Hasselbeck in the starting spot rather than giving up on him so quickly. What was I thinking?!?		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - You're going to have to call your hardware guy. It's not a software issue. 09/26/2006 @ 08:06:50 AM
I absolutely called this Jon asked me before week 1 who would be the big name player to go down, and I said Alexander. I know it's hard to prove this because I had the #3 pick in 2 leagues, but I was not going to pick Alexander because of his affiliation with the Madden cover. If I were someone's agent, I would have my players avoid the cover like the plague.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9563 Posts 09/26/2006 @ 10:23:21 AM
The thing with the Madden curse, how much of it is a curse and how much of it is that the whole reason you're on the cover is because you had a particularly special (and therefor hard to repeat) year the season before. Sometimes the stars just align for teams/players. (The Bears a few years ago, Jon Kitna's "Comeback" year, ect.) Sometimes it's hard to catch that lightning in a bottle again, it doesn't have to mean a curse is involved. In fact I'd bet you'ld be able to make an argument for a "MVP curse".		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.
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	Scott - Ma'am, can you make sure your computer is turned on? 09/26/2006 @ 11:09:38 AM
But we're not just talking about having less than average years. We're talking about busts or major injuries. Cover year, player, result the following year: 1999, Barry Sanders, retired 2000 Dorsey Levens, cut by the Packers 2002, Daunte Culpepper, started 4-7 and suffered season ending knee injury 2003, Marshall Faulk, injury; never broke 1000 yards rushing for rest of career, 2004, Michael Vick, broken fibula in preseason missed 11 games 2005, Ray Lewis, only season without an interception 2006 Donovan McNabb, injury riddled season, TO tore team apart 2007, Shaun Alexandar, broke foot in week 3 It's probably not a "curse", but I will choose again and again to avoid drafting a player who was on the previous year's cover of Madden, no matter how good the player is. It turns out it is a pretty safe bet. If you want to make an MVP curse list, go ahead. I'd be curious to see what is concluded, but I can't think of too many MVPs in recent history who were busts the next season.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9563 Posts 09/26/2006 @ 11:53:21 AM
Well for starters it's a classic "problem in search of a solution". The perfect example is Ray Lewis, that's really searching for a reason to be say he's been cursed. Bad things happened to players all the time. Daunte was often hurt, as is Donovan. Barry Sanders voluntarily retired. Dorsey F. Levens was on the cover of Madden? It's not a let the evidence mount and come up with a pattern situation anymore, it's a we have a hypothesis and let's find any reason to support it situation. Kinda like when Scientists get into all that "Relativity" razz-a-ma-tazz. They'll do a bunch of theoretical math. Look at it. Say "in order for this to be true there must be this weird force we can't measure." Then, rather then question the original theory, they announce there are 12 dimensions and tiny sub particles that can jump between them.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.
Jeremy messed with this at 09/26/2006 11:54:10 am

	Alex - Ignorance is bliss to those uneducated 09/26/2006 @ 12:59:24 PM
I think it's more a classic "thing that makes for good conversation but no one really believes it". Except Scott apparently. What's wrong with the theory of relativity? You'd rather be stuck in the 1600s with Newton?		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 09/26/2006 @ 01:41:02 PM
It's not so much that I believe it, it's more that it's been true so long. It's all hindsight, obviously, but I went into this year's drafts knowing that if I had the number 1 pick I was not going to pick Alexandar. Now, I had the number 3 pick so he was gone in both my drafts when it got to me, but LT was my number 1 rated player. Sure a lot of it is just fun conversion, and there is no real cause and effect between being on the cover of Madden and having a bad next season, but just because it isn't the cause doesn't mean that it isn't true. Basically I agree with Jeremy almost completely. However, I could simply say, I'm going to figure out what is the fortune of players who have been featured on the Madden cover. When I see that no one has had a good year after being displayed on the cover, I use can use reason to not take my chances on a player just featured on the cover until it is proven otherwise. I still predicted that Alexandar would be the first big name to go down and it happened, but so what if it actually had nothing to do with Madden. It's like the redskins "deciding" every presidential election since FDR up until G.W. Bush broke the trend in 2004. Although it probably something that could be altered to make it true in 2008 again, the redskins/presidential thing probably is another example of Jeremy's point, but it's still fun to talk about. So in summary: 1. I don't actually believe in the "curse"(see also Curse of the Bambino, Cubs Goat Curse, or Curse of the Jade Scorpian) 2. I was still predicted that Alexandar would get hurt (being correct in a prediction does make a person "right" though) 3. more than 50% of people polled on ESPN actually believe the curse 4. The Packers are obviously Super Bowl bound after Sunday's win against the high powered Lions. 5. I agree with Jeremy's less-than-fully-explained theory of lack-of-relativity 6. I just used 5 hyphens in that last sentence to create 2 "words"		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.
Scott edited this at 09/26/2006 1:43:57 pm

	Jeremy - Broadcast in stunning 1080i 09/26/2006 @ 02:10:21 PM
It's more all the sub-fields of relativity. Like String Theory. It doesn't seem like they're making observations and then using math to explain those observations. They're coming up with math that explains one theory, but opens up a whole host of other things that have to be happening in order for that math to hold. Rather than redo the math they go about it as if the math is infallible and therefor all these other things must be true too. I'm not really even making a judgement on whether or not I believe it at all. It just seems there are lots of people switching up the order of the steps in the scientific method. 1. Define the question 2. Form hypothesis 3. Publish results 4. Gather information and resources 5. Perform experiment and collect data 6. Analyze data 7. Interpret data and draw conclusions that serve your original hypothesis		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.
Jeremy edited this at 09/26/2006 2:11:38 pm

	Scott - 6225 Posts 09/26/2006 @ 02:18:56 PM
is that list the "re-defined" method? Because I think gathering and analyzing data should come before publishing results. But maybe that was your point. And I know Jon is online, so I expect a comment sooner or later.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - Always thinking of, but never about, the children. 09/26/2006 @ 02:32:51 PM
Yeah, that's the current model many people are following. Though it should maybe look like this: 1. Find a profitable question 2. Form half a hypothesis 3. Publish results 4. Gather information and resources 5. Perform experiment and collect data 6. Analyze data 7. Interpret data and draw conclusions that serve your original hypothesis - dont repeat. 8. ??? 9. Profit		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - You're going to have to call your hardware guy. It's not a software issue. 09/26/2006 @ 03:26:06 PM
1) observation 2) hypothesis 3) Make prediction based on hypothesis 4) test these predictions 5) if predictions tested prove true, create theory. if predictions tested prove false, make new predictions or alter hypothesis 6) kill Osama 7) repeat step 6 several times just to be sure 8) create list about the scientific method and how some scientists have changed it recently 9) post results on NutCan the first 5 were actually real I think		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.
Scott edited this at 09/26/2006 3:26:41 pm

	Sarah - How do you use these things? 09/26/2006 @ 05:53:53 PM
yawn		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jon - 3463 Posts 09/26/2006 @ 05:59:43 PM
Here are my week three thoughts. I missed the first half of the Vikings game. I was on the road. When I got home it was 6-6 and was apparently a defensive low scoring game. Then when I started watching (at a local sports bar/restaurant), it turned into a scorefest. Ok, so mostly just a regular game. Here are some thoughts. Williamson needs to catch more balls. Too many passes go right through his hands. If he even gets his hands on it. Two, What was up with the last Vikings play? Three, Pat Williams is a stud and has been since last year. Four, Mewelde Moore made a great play that could have been a game saver, but there was a fumble that made that almost meaningless. Five, there seems to be a clear division in our division.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	lukaka 09/27/2006 @ 09:07:11 PM
balls		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - Broadcast in stunning 1080i 09/27/2006 @ 10:45:37 PM
Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.