NFL 2006 Season Week 16 Picks

	Scott - 6225 Posts 12/19/2006 @ 11:52:37 AM
Here's Green Bay's playoff scenario: Giants need to lose their 2 remaining games, Atlanta needs to lose 1, St. Louis needs to lose 1, and Seattle needs to win 1. It doesn't matter who these teams lose to or beat. I'm following this pretty closely now. Where is Tyrone Poole when you need him.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 4 times.

	Jeremy - Broadcast in stunning 1080i 12/19/2006 @ 12:00:14 PM
The Packers need to win out as well.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Micah - We can do this easy, or we can do it real easy 12/19/2006 @ 12:07:33 PM
Damn it you beat me to that comment. I put more money on Any of the above scenarios than the Packers beating the Vikings and the Bears. I don't care if the Bears are resting their starters. All that means is Grossman won't play and Benson will get the carries. Thats more than enough to beat the Packers. If the Packers make the playoffs the NFC is a bigger travesty than I thought. The teams the Packers have beaten are a combined 26-58. Of course if they win out that will go up to about 44-70		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 2 times.

	Jeremy - Cube Phenomenoligist 12/19/2006 @ 12:08:41 PM
The Vikings playoff chances are a little murkier (although better). They actually don't even need to win out. Read here		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Scott - Get Up! Get outta here! Gone! 12/19/2006 @ 01:04:05 PM
but if the Packers win out, the Vikings are officially out, because the Packers would have the Tie Breaker. The NFC needs the Packers in the playoffs. Football suffers, in fact America suffers, when the Packers don't do good. Look at the presidential approval ratings during the mid to late 90's and early 2000s. They were pretty high. But look at the approval ratings for the last 2 or 3 years. Pretty bad. Coincidence? Not likely. Or how about the 1970s. Nixon, Ford, and Carter. Not exactly our greatest presidents. In fact, the 70's was not a good decade for presidents. I think it was because the Packers were 57-83-5. You want America to survive? Win Packers Win. Article? Ha. I just started making this up, but I could find some facts to support it if I tried hard enough.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - If you aren't enough without it, you'll never be enough with it. 12/19/2006 @ 01:09:41 PM
that was a big waste of time		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - So's your face 12/19/2006 @ 06:44:06 PM
Fact: George W Sux		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Scott - Ma'am, can you make sure your computer is turned on? 12/21/2006 @ 08:25:59 AM
I just watched the first Lord of the Rings on Friday. Weird.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Scott - On your mark...get set...Terrible! 12/21/2006 @ 08:27:20 AM
And George Wallace was indeed a bad political figure. "Segregation today, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever." Not really I guy I could have gotten behind.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 12/21/2006 @ 09:46:26 AM
I thought Jeremy and Sarah went to the Packers-Seahawks playoff game, or was that just Sarah, or was that just a dream?		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9543 Posts 12/21/2006 @ 09:48:17 AM
It was just Sarah and her fam.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Scott - Resident Tech Support 12/21/2006 @ 12:47:10 PM
Hey Jon, where are you watching the game?		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jon - 3443 Posts 12/22/2006 @ 12:51:13 AM
Don't just diss Gerald Ford for no reason like that!		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 12/22/2006 @ 08:33:57 AM
I'm glad Jeremy was at the game and not watching it, because his head would have exploded with the amount the two TV announcers mentioned the idea of this maybe being Brett Favre's last game at Lambeau. Bryant Gumble mentioned during the first 3 Packer possessions, he mentioned it at least twice during the pregame, and I think he thought about it at least a dozen other times. Also, Bryant Gumble is probably the worst sports caster I have ever watched. He was making mistake after mistake, he always always had to quailify his statements (it "appears" that the Packers have a first down, Green "appears" to be down at about the 35.) We all know it's not going to be perfect, just say it already. Anyway, Chris Collinsworth was ok, but Gumble is basically a Metrosexual sportscaster type who would be better served calling games for the NFL on Lifetime. At one time during a break the camera was on the 3 super bowl trophies from the Packer Hall of Fame, and Gumble referred to them as the "three shiny trophies." He later said that they were fabulous (not really, but you could imagine). Anyway, probably the most uninteresting game I have ever watched. But the Vikings are done, the Packers are still alive, and that's all that really matters.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 2 times.

	Scott - Ma'am, can you make sure your computer is turned on? 12/22/2006 @ 09:54:39 AM
Jumbo12 is back. Hooray!!		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9543 Posts 12/22/2006 @ 12:21:20 PM
Since I promised to regale you with some tales... 1) I'll take my cushy dome, thanks. I've been to Lambeau a few times and it has either been hot or raining. Nothing like being soaking wet and freezing for 10 hours. 2) I'll take my actual chair at said dome, thanks. Sarah had some guy in her lap the entire game. Lambeau needs to institute a policy like the airlines. The poor guy in front of us had about the width of his number "10" on his "seat" to sit in. 3) I was VERY impressed with how well the purple traveled. 4) That has to have been one of the worst football games I've ever seen. The Vikings total just over 100 yards of offense and the Packers needed about 5 times that to win by 2 with a minute and a half left. 5) Bubba Franks did everything he possibly could short of actually somehow scoring points for the Vikings to give the game away. 6) The Vikings are physically incapable of running a pass route between 2 and 40 yards. 7) The Vikings are physically incapable of covering a pass route between 2 and 40 yards. At one point in the game I was nearly compelled to run onto the field and glue a Viking to Donald Driver. How hard is that offense to figure out? Put 6 guys on DD. Repeat. Almost EVERY play was the same thing. Favre got way too much time to just stand there while Donald found a spot where there were no Vikings within 10 yards. ARG!! 8) It was nice to see the ol' Brett Favre Rule extend a key Packer drive. It had been a while. 9) As an addendum the the BFR - Bubba Franks was called for holding with roughly 2 minutes left. Brett took his helmet off to argue the call, which should have garnered a 15 yard penalty tacked on. 10) The Vikings play calling, like it has been all year, was terrible. They abandoned the run for no reason and constantly ran plays where only one guy can be a target and it's clear to everyone who that target is. 11) The Viking fans booed Johnson off the field in favor of Jackson last week. Karma, it seems, has Johnson's back. Jackson didn't light it up, but he wasn't exactly getting any help. 12) What do we have to do for Troy Williamson to catch a pass over 10 yards? He's had so many chances you would think he would have accidentally caught one by now. He overran a sure TD. He had 5 steps on the 2 Packers behind him. 7 points in this game would have been huge. This was also the last pass the Vikings threw over 3 yards all night despite it almost being a TD.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 2 times.

	Jeremy - I believe virtually everything I read. 12/22/2006 @ 12:47:53 PM
13) I almost forgot the most important one. I believe in my game comments above I said "a handful of 1st downs would be an improvement." Now it's hard to quantify how many of something that doesn't have mass or take up space can fit into an ambiguous measurement such as a "handful." I'm going to state for the record the number is greater than 3. 3 first downs?!? 3!?!		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 12/22/2006 @ 01:04:47 PM
A helmet to helmet hit on a QB is going to be called 100% of the time no matter who the qb is. There is no judgement on that call. It's just the rule.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - Pie Racist 12/22/2006 @ 01:11:12 PM
Well we didn't see it from the upcloseness that one would see it on TV, so you may be right. It looked from the replays on the jumbotron that he got shoved rather lightly by a Viking a full arms length away and then fell to the ground sprawled out like he got shot. All the Packer fans in our section cheered the "acting job" on Favre's part.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - How do you use these things? 12/22/2006 @ 02:05:16 PM
It's true. Oh and there was a Viking fan who was turning around and cheering every good thing the Vikings did. One time when she did that she proceeded to spill all of the contents of her cup onto everyone around her. That was probably the only dumb viking fan. ALL PACKER fans who have tickets to Lambeau should not be allowed to have tickets to games. Packers have 3rd down and you see Tauscher trying to hush the crowd because everyone is starting to go wild. They have signs on the Jumbotron whenever the offense is on the field telling the crowd to shut the F up. Does anyone pay attention? NOO..... Oh and people were trying to start the wave when we were on offense. I hate Packer fans at Lambeau. Oh, and I should've just paid half price for my ticket because I only got half a seat. I had to hold my arms awkwardly so that the guy next to me could have his seat and half of mine. Not fair. Bubba Franks has got to go. No questions asked. I've always liked the guy, but that's unacceptable. Now, maybe i'm being unfair considering I want Favre to stay and he handed the game to the Vikings after our defense did so well. Favre can stay one more year. But, we can't keep stickin' it to our defense. They play so well and then our offense lays an egg or starts playing for the other team. Yikes. Oh well. We're still in contention!		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Jeremy - 9543 Posts 12/22/2006 @ 02:11:32 PM
I can't believe I didn't mention the crowd. I started my list with two points in mind. The 1st down comment and a comment on how god awful the crowd is and forget them both. To be fair although that lady did in fact "turn around and cheer everything good the vikings did" that was only about 3 times. The last time she spilled the cup over and over and over. Edit: Also, Not only was the crowd loud when they shouldn't have been, they really weren't all that loud when they should have been.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.
Jeremy messed with this at 12/22/2006 2:21:07 pm

	Jon - many posts 12/22/2006 @ 03:24:00 PM
first, comments on comments. Scott, I laughed out loud about the fabulous thing. four nuts. second, good to see sarah giving actual comments. and bringing the info. four nuts. also, jeremy I think it's all in your head (that she spilled it over and over again). now to the game. terrible. this may sound like a defense mechanism, but as I've told matt, I'm surprised the vikings have won as many games as they have this year. The packers have shown how easy of a gameplan it is that you need to beat minnesotaand they haven't even executed it that well and still won. another thing I brought up during the game, as did jeremy now basically, did the vikings not remember the first game? the packers were doing the same exact thing. wait for driver to settle in about ten yards down in the middle of the field and favre has all day to get it to him when he is open. also, our best offensive play was the one wehre williamson droped the ball. Johnson doesn't make that pass that accurately so I felt good about tarvaris jackson. actually though to me it was surprising how poorly jackson eluded tackles when he was on the run. he did well getting out of the way of the rushers but never seemed to go anywhere. maybe my expectations were too high.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Jeremy - 9543 Posts 12/22/2006 @ 03:36:42 PM
No, it really was over and over. She was like jumping up and down and waving her hands around as if she was empty handed and her beer was sloshing everywhere. (Each time less and less obviously) It went on long enough for the people getting beer dumped on them to stand up and forcibly sit her down. As a fellow Viking fan it was embarrassing.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jon - 3443 Posts 12/22/2006 @ 04:06:19 PM
did you get it though? it was a song		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - Cube Phenomenoligist 12/22/2006 @ 04:34:35 PM
Oh, no I guess it was a little too cryptic. Although by merely hinting that song it's now stuck in my head. It's an ironic feature of that song.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Alex - Refactor Mercilessly 12/23/2006 @ 12:02:15 PM
Remember when the Packers had possibly the 2nd worst team of the Brett Favre era and they still swept the Vikings? Good times!!		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - 4671 Posts 12/24/2006 @ 12:46:11 PM
Everyone have a Merry Christmas, I hope that it is spent with loved ones.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - Get Up! Get outta here! Gone! 12/25/2006 @ 11:30:04 AM
I am officially a temporary Vikings fan. Only for one week. And I am going to burn my clothes after the game is over		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jon - Nutcan.com's kitten expert 12/26/2006 @ 02:39:19 AM
I just understood where the george wallace comment came from. five nuts. a few days late.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9543 Posts 12/26/2006 @ 09:42:19 AM
Playoff Picture Green Bay can clinch a playoff berth with: 1. A win plus a NY Giants win GB clinches strength of victory tiebreaker over NYG Or 2. A win plus a NY Giants loss or tie plus a St. Louis loss or tie Or 3. A win plus a NY Giants loss or tie plus a Carolina win Or 4. A win plus a NY Giants loss or tie plus an Atlanta win Or 5. A tie plus a NY Giants loss plus a St. Louis loss plus an Atlanta loss or tie plus a Carolina loss or tie So........The Packers hold their own destiny? I dont know what else #1 would mean.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9543 Posts 12/26/2006 @ 09:46:26 AM
I think what it means (after reading the Giants' scenarios) is. 1. A win plus a NY Giants win PLUS GB clinches strength of victory tiebreaker over NYG Giants SOV: .438 Packers: .314 So I'm guessing that's out unless the Giants win by one and the Packers beat the Bears 159-0.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.
Jeremy perfected this at 12/26/2006 9:47:55 am

	Jeremy - No one's gay for Moleman 12/26/2006 @ 10:28:53 AM
Ha, just out or curiosity I rechecked the article and they did add a " " where i suspected there needed to be one. They used "plus" almost everywhere else though.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.
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	Scott - 6225 Posts 12/26/2006 @ 02:50:24 PM
This explains things a bit better.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - As Seen On The Internet 12/26/2006 @ 03:04:03 PM
I thought strength of victory was how badly you beat teams. I guess it's like strength of schedule except only factoring the teams you beat.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9543 Posts 12/26/2006 @ 03:16:37 PM
Also, in case you haven't heard, the NFL "Flexed" the Packers/Bears game to be the ESPN Sunday night game.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - Ma'am, can you make sure your computer is turned on? 12/26/2006 @ 03:35:37 PM
Yeah, so now we'll know ahead of time if the game is meaningless or not. Not only might it not have any playoff implications, but it also may not be Favre's last game. It's possible that the game could be the most meaningless game ever to be given special consideration.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9543 Posts 12/26/2006 @ 03:42:46 PM
I think ESPN will jump at any chance to fellate Brett Farve in a more public setting, regardless of how flimsy the rational is.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 12/26/2006 @ 04:08:09 PM
Well, it's NBC this time.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - Broadcast in stunning 1080i 12/26/2006 @ 04:21:37 PM
Yes, I suppose it is. For some reason I had it in my head I had to post that it had been changed ASAP because you wouldn't be able to see it as you may have planned to. (Since you don't have ESPN and all) As opposed to ESPN, who are seasoned experts at beating us over the head with Brett, NBC will be testing the "Favre Flogging" waters a bit. It will be interesting so see how they handle it. I predict a shot of Favre into/out of 80% of commercials and 3 "inspirational" fluff pieces on him. We would of course be best served if those tributes were full of information anyone who touched Terra Firma in the last decade already knows.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - 4671 Posts 12/26/2006 @ 05:47:56 PM
A few comments. I think Jeremy corrected himself later, but Sunday night football plays on NBC, not ESPN. Second of all, it's FaVRe, not FaRVe. Thirdly, Jon sux as much as George W. Fourthly, GO PACK GO!		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - No one's gay for Moleman 12/26/2006 @ 06:04:23 PM
It's called a typo. At least I can read one comment above the one I'm currently making before I start the conjecture.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - So's your face 12/26/2006 @ 06:19:51 PM
You should do the same.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9543 Posts 12/26/2006 @ 06:21:42 PM
I don't think that makes sense...on a couple levels. Oh, and so's your face.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.