NFL 2004 Season Week 7 Picks

	Jeremy - 9543 Posts 10/19/2004 @ 11:50:55 PM
I apologize for the sizes, but I couldn't resist.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 10/20/2004 @ 12:05:16 AM
meh, whatever Viking fans need to get their kicks I guess. Here's something funny though, He's not on the Packers anymore, so I don't have to care=)		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - 4671 Posts 10/20/2004 @ 02:35:00 PM
Here's the thing. No one is denying the fact that Moss can catch TD passes. Nor does anyone like McKenzie. So I guess my question is, what's your point?		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 10/20/2004 @ 02:59:21 PM
what the video clip doesn't show is when moss shoved McKenzie at about the 15 yard line giving him ample separation. Watch the whole play, it's there. A Viking fan may not see the shove, but just because you don't want to see it doesn't mean it isn't there:)		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9543 Posts 10/20/2004 @ 04:52:35 PM
There's no point...just that I made the comment about him getting owned again last week and then I found these pics. I think "shoved" is a bit extreme, but there was some contact, again no worse than that of any one else. Recievers are allowed to "be physical" DB's are not.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 10/20/2004 @ 05:25:09 PM
But Randy moss isn't allowed to do the same as other receivers, ya know		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9543 Posts 10/20/2004 @ 06:21:24 PM
He had more offensive PI than the other top 9 receivers combined last year. I'd have to imagine that's statisticly significant enough for there to of had to been something fishy going on since db's and recievers do something that could be called on pretty much every play.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 10/20/2004 @ 07:34:15 PM
"You can't script October" hmmm, yankees, red sox, game seven, in new york, winner goes to the world series....nope, no one's ever thought of that one before		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9543 Posts 10/20/2004 @ 08:03:52 PM
No kidding, if anything it's the most predictable script ever.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 10/20/2004 @ 08:34:30 PM
now the National league, if anyone saw this coming, you are a better man than I		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	icbeast - 3619 Posts 10/21/2004 @ 12:30:13 AM
Moss had more offensive PI calls because he pushes off on almost every route, except maybe slant routes. Maybe his percentage of push offs called against him is a little high, but thats because he does it so often. The Red Sox being down 0-3 and coming back to tie and then win the series is not very predictable. Only 3 teams have even gotten back to 2-3. The Sox are the first team ever to force a game 7, so I don't see how that's predictable. I also don't see how the Yankees were so good this year. Their starting lineup is usually all household names, but they have a couple of bums this year (Tony Clark?). There has been a ridiculous number of extra inning games this postseason, just to point out the obvious.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - How do you use these things? 10/21/2004 @ 07:16:22 AM
I think they're referring to the fact that it was the yankees vs. the red sox, a match-up that the tv people wanted to see because it's such a big rivalry.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - Resident Tech Support 10/21/2004 @ 07:22:53 AM
bingo		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - Ma'am, can you make sure your computer is turned on? 10/21/2004 @ 01:14:30 PM
ya know what this page needs? More door prizes. People (like myself) need to want to come here. (ok, so I don't really need any more incentive), but some people do. Just trying to help.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9543 Posts 10/21/2004 @ 03:35:59 PM
Sarah is a wise woman. Indeed what I meant (and I think Scott meant) was not that the outcome was predictable. But rather if it were a movie it would be written to play out exactly like that. About the only thing we could offer is guest article spots. We don't really have anything else. Moss uses his hands like every other WR. It just looks more obvious because a lot of his catches are stationary jump balls.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - You're going to have to call your hardware guy. It's not a software issue. 10/21/2004 @ 05:18:49 PM
Moss has go go gadget arms, which he uses as weapons and should get penalized simply for setting foot on the field. I was just kidding about the "what this page needs" comment, I was just bored and I was thinking about something I wrote for a dorm evaluation sheet. Go Astros		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	icbeast - I was too weak to give in Too strong to lose 10/21/2004 @ 06:53:58 PM
So you suggested that your dorm should have door prizes?		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - 4671 Posts 10/21/2004 @ 11:03:47 PM
Red Sox vs Cardinals		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	icbeast - 3619 Posts 10/21/2004 @ 11:10:02 PM
as if we didn't know?		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 10/21/2004 @ 11:23:32 PM
yes to the dorm having door prizes question.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	icbeast - 3619 Posts 10/21/2004 @ 11:36:51 PM
Dorm prizes for residents or for visitors?		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	icbeast - I don't need to get steady I know just how I feel 10/21/2004 @ 11:45:12 PM
STL, TENN, NYG, PHILLY STEAK, TB, SD, INDY, BALT, ATL, NYJ, NO, SEA, GB, DEN		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 10/22/2004 @ 10:41:36 AM
Miami, Tennessee, Giants, Philly, Tamba Bay, Carolina, Indy, Baltimore, KC, New York Jets, New Orleans, Seattle, Green Bay, Denver, dorm prizes for everyone		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - I believe virtually everything I read. 10/22/2004 @ 07:24:51 PM
Tim Michaels is a tool		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - Resident Tech Support 10/23/2004 @ 01:02:55 PM
true has anyone noticed that very quietly the Packers receiving corps has become one of the best in the league. Donald Driver and Javon Walker as a tandom are 2nd in the league in Receptions and 1st overall in yards. Both are on pace for over 90 catches. Now I wish that could translate into wins.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	icbeast - I was too weak to give in Too strong to lose 10/23/2004 @ 02:27:39 PM
It translates into being down by 20 every game and needing to pass all the time. Badgers are going all the way this year.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 10/24/2004 @ 04:37:22 PM
who picked miami!!!!!!! me!!!!!		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - 4671 Posts 10/24/2004 @ 04:59:35 PM
Fisher for our next QB!		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 10/24/2004 @ 05:27:23 PM
Heating Up, the Packers' perfect season starts this week.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - Ma'am, can you make sure your computer is turned on? 10/24/2004 @ 05:35:10 PM
I've determined that some of my anger towards the Packers' conservative play calling was due to the Offensive coordinator, not Mike Sherman. These last 2 weeks have definitely given me hope in him as a head coach again.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - No, I did not change your screen saver settings 10/24/2004 @ 06:16:19 PM
Life without Grady Jackson......130 rushing yards per game against life with Grady Jackson.......66 rushing yards against Javon Walker continues on his torrent pace, he is the only receiver in the league at this point to average more than 100 yards per game. Things are looking good for Green Bay, everything is coming together finally. All we need now is for this year's edition of the Choking Vikings.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9543 Posts 10/24/2004 @ 06:27:46 PM
By the way Matt, I dont know when you made the comment about me posting it early, but i just saw it. I posted it early because for the second week in a row "the code" was cracked and a comment was made, since it shows up in the new content page it's essentially live so I just made it live before I left for work the next morning. ps....That's how you beat the Titans		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - On your mark...get set...Terrible! 10/24/2004 @ 06:39:38 PM
by knocking out their starting qb		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Matt - Washington Bureau Chief 10/24/2004 @ 08:22:04 PM
Jeremy - You're the one who posted the first comment.... plus, so what if someone breaks the "code", good for them if they do.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9543 Posts 10/24/2004 @ 08:48:56 PM
I can also control if it shows up in the new content, by the time I saw Scott's comment many people had been to the the week anyway since his did show up in the new content page so I thought, screw it. Volek came in doing way better than McNair was doing, plus we were without Moss. I'm not going to feel bad for other teams injuries, we're as bad off as anyone else, and winning.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	icbeast - 3619 Posts 10/24/2004 @ 09:05:05 PM
enjoy it while it lasts		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	icbeast - But let history remember, that as free men, we chose to make it so! 10/24/2004 @ 09:10:53 PM
Devin Harris had 20 points in his first preseason start against the Bucks last night. Bo seems to be doing a pretty good job of recruiting already, but having a star player in the NBA from Wisconsin couldn't hurt. Hopefully he gets a lot of playing time this year.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - No, I did not change your screen saver settings 10/24/2004 @ 10:50:12 PM
has my "breaking of the code" caused a problem? if so I can stop, otherwise, I'm all over it.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Matt - Nutcan.com's MBL 10/25/2004 @ 02:32:03 AM
If we stop posting comments to future weeks, then the terrorist have won.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Matt - Washington Bureau Chief 10/25/2004 @ 02:32:22 AM
If we stop posting comments to future weeks, then the terrorists have won.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Matt - 3941 Posts 10/25/2004 @ 02:34:23 AM
Also...ignore the 1st 2:32am post, otherwise the terrorists win again.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - 4671 Posts 10/25/2004 @ 08:01:17 AM
"Favre has a swollen throwing hand" I am surprised none of the announcers made a comment when this happened. They showed Favre wincing and shaking his hand. I said oh crap, but nothing was said. I hope the xrays are negative! It's always enjoyable when we crush the cowboys!		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9543 Posts 10/25/2004 @ 10:44:06 AM
Don't worry Sarah, 85% of the Redskins broadcast will be spent talking about it 95% if He has any INTs		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 10/25/2004 @ 12:36:10 PM
which he won't have, so only 85%		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - On your mark...get set...Terrible! 10/25/2004 @ 04:35:32 PM
Vikings and Packers are 1-2 in Total offense, and 28-21 in total defense. When the 2 teams meet in 3 weeks, it's going to be a shootout, unless moss is hurt, cuz the vikes only had 161 passing yards without him. Is it truly a myth?		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9543 Posts 10/25/2004 @ 05:55:23 PM
Well the Vikings beat the Titans without Moss. Those same Titans who beat the ever living crap out of the Packers. The Vikes have scored only 8 less points, with one game less, and their opponents have scored 44 less points. We ran the ball more against the Titans than we normally do. When your back gets you 7 a carry who needs to pass? Plus Daunte had 183 yards. No one ever said there would be no drop off, but they can get the job done without him.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 10/25/2004 @ 06:35:10 PM
that was the "old" packers. The Packers that played this weekend are going undefeated		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	icbeast - 3619 Posts 10/25/2004 @ 06:39:32 PM
Hey remember when you were talking about Culpepper and his non-dropping off stats? I tried to find it, but apparently you did remember and went back and deleted it cause I can't find it. Big time rally for me this week in the fantasy league. It helped that my receivers had 4 TDs combined.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9543 Posts 10/25/2004 @ 06:53:05 PM
It's my comment for this week, it's still there. All I meant was going into last week people were talking about how he can't keep that pace up, and he upped the pace.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	icbeast - 3619 Posts 10/26/2004 @ 06:20:19 PM
They were right though.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9543 Posts 10/26/2004 @ 06:26:46 PM
They weren't right last week....which was what I was talking about.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Matt - Washington Bureau Chief 10/26/2004 @ 06:50:13 PM
Jeremy must be feeling insecure about being behind this season, so he put up the lifetime stats to boost his ego.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9543 Posts 10/26/2004 @ 07:34:02 PM
Actually I was watching the world series a couple days ago and they showed some guys post season and lifetime average, which gave me the idea. However, that makes it a perfect 3/3 on other Page 3 staffers (as well as my brother Cory) who said the same thing. Perhaps it is you who are insecure :) I'll never understand why National League rules apply in the World series at the NL parks. It's a huge advantage for the National League team.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	icbeast - You've got to trust your instinct, and let go of regret 10/26/2004 @ 09:05:00 PM
I don't understand why the leagues have gone this long with different rules.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	icbeast - 3619 Posts 10/26/2004 @ 09:10:46 PM
Big Dog is going to be benched for some rookie punk. I don't know how you bench a guy with a career scoring average over 20. He had injury problems last year, but I think he is healthy now. Oh well, I don't like the Sixers anyway so if they want to suck that's fine with me.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	icbeast - But let history remember, that as free men, we chose to make it so! 10/27/2004 @ 06:22:54 PM
7-7 55-47		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9543 Posts 10/27/2004 @ 09:38:25 PM
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	Jeremy - Cube Phenomenoligist 10/27/2004 @ 09:40:47 PM
Apparently Rosanne was booked for tonight's "God Bless America"		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9543 Posts 10/27/2004 @ 10:12:22 PM
If Boston wins as the moon goes into a full eclipse that has to foretell the end of he world right?		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 10/27/2004 @ 11:57:00 PM
well, Jesus was already on the field (or was that actually Johnny damon), maybe that says something		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Micah - 584 Posts 10/28/2004 @ 08:27:01 AM
Johnny Damongerously is my hero!		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - 4671 Posts 10/28/2004 @ 12:35:38 PM
I get it. Sweep. Ha. Funny. Doug made the last out. BOO! ya! (did i scare ya?)		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	icbeast - Refactor Mercilessly 10/28/2004 @ 05:43:38 PM
I meant to comment on this the first time I saw it but I forgot. Playing 2 snaps to keep a consecutive game streak alive is weak, very weak. I barely watched any of the World Series. Didn't really care. Football season is in full swing and I neither like nor dislike both teams. Quite the winning streak though by the Sox. And quite a choke by the Pujols, Rolen, Edmonds combo. That first comment is about Moss in case anyone didn't know.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - Super Chocolate Bear 10/28/2004 @ 06:09:06 PM
I know Favre has had at least one token start in his streak. It came after a Viking game.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Matt - 3941 Posts 10/28/2004 @ 07:09:16 PM
I don't think the Moss thing was weak at all. I think that they planned on using him more in red zone situations and as a decoy, but the game was in the bag pretty quickly and they didn't feel like they needed to use him.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	icbeast - 3619 Posts 10/28/2004 @ 07:49:51 PM
I think they talked up the decoy and red zone thing just to get the other team to plan for it. That I have no problem with. Oct 31, 2002 article "Favre has started 180 straight games, counting playoffs. Although the Packers fully expect Favre to start against Miami, Sherman was asked what would happen if he suffered a setback during the week. Sherman was adamant in saying that he wouldn't give Favre a token snap or two just to keep his streak alive." After scouring the earth for boxscores and such, I find no token start for Farve after a Viking game. The least he's done in a game after a Minnesota matchup was his 6 of 15 game against the Bears on Oct. 31, 1994 in a game in which the Packers ran for 223 yards and won. He also got hurt in a TB game after a Vikings game (Sapp), but that was later in the game.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	icbeast - Ignorance is bliss to those uneducated 10/28/2004 @ 08:00:50 PM
I did not watch the game, but from the box score the Titans were winning until 1:18 left in the first quarter when the Vikings tied it. It was then another 5 minutes of game time before the Vikings went up by 7, not a very big lead. Then with 56 seconds left in the first half, they made it 14 point lead. Still hardly in the bag, although I'm assuming that the Titans were really playing poorly from what I've heard and read. So it was a close game until that second TD and Moss only got 2 snaps in the whole first half? TOKEN! In an unrelated story, I just got my first phone call from the mothership, I mean alma mater, asking me to phone home, meaning give them money. I politely told the young woman that I was still paying off student loans and I'd be glad to contribute in a couple of years when those are paid off. Apprentice time!		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9543 Posts 10/28/2004 @ 09:17:20 PM
When the Vikes were about to put the TD #2 on the board in the second quarter Moss was out there. Obviously Sherman would say that, that doesn't mean when the time/pressure came he wouldn't cave. I swear there was one time when Favre ended up in a boot after a Viking game and played a very short time in the next game. I could be wrong. It's a non issue anyway, token starts/streak exenders are common. I have to imagine Jerry Rice got a couple token receptions in that big reception streak of his. If they would have thrown a screen pass to Moss on the first play for zero yards then he didn't come back that would be a bigger deal. (Although not on par with Strahan's token sack) However they really did use him as a redzone decoy like they said, so it detracts from the "tokenness" a bit.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	icbeast - Refactor Mercilessly 10/28/2004 @ 10:59:09 PM
He only played 2 plays!!!! Out of the whole game!!! I don't think I've ever tried to defend the Strahan sack. Only Brett knows what really happened there, but it would tough to say that Strahan earned that sack no matter what Brett's explanation was. I don't think he's ever given one? I seem to remember Farve ending a game in the Metrodome that way as well. However I'm pretty sure I checked every box score for every Packers game after a Vikings game that Farve has played in. There were a couple of times that the Packers had their bye after Vikings game, maybe that's what happened and Farve would probably have missed the next game but they had a bye. Actually now that I say that I think that's what happened, he got hurt in Minnesota but the bye week allowed him to heal up enough to play the next game. 4 sure. What exactly would qualify as a token reception? It needs to be a forward pass to qualify as a reception (I'm just assuming that, didn't look it up) and I doubt any defender would just let him catch a pass, so any reception would have to be earned. Lining up for 2 plays as a WR and running a little route as a decoy (I'm officially pasting a picture of Moss in my dictionary next to "decoy" since it's used so often) doesn't require much earning. If he'd have caught a pass for 0 yards at least he'd have done something. Or even a pass thrown in his direction. Playing decoy for 2 plays is about as token as it gets. The only thing less token then that is playing decoy for 1 play. So I guess on a scale of 1-10, it was a 9.99 token performance, not a perfect 10. Ok, I guess I'll move on to week 8 now.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Matt - 3941 Posts 10/29/2004 @ 01:14:52 AM
McNair was out and the back-up was playing like crap. By half-time everybody pretty much new the game was over, so Moss didn't even come out for the 2nd half. If the game was closer and the Vikes were in a short jump-ball type TD or 3rd downbsituation, Moss would have been used.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Matt - Ombudsman 10/29/2004 @ 01:17:18 AM
Or even in a 3rd down situation.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.