NFL 2003 Season Week 17 Picks

	Jeremy - 9563 Posts 12/24/2003 @ 12:27:48 PM
Due to his comments Matt has hereby been stripped of the title "Most Beloved Page 3 Writer" and given the lesser title of "Beloved Page 3 Writer"		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 12/25/2003 @ 12:50:16 PM
I am the proud new owner of Leroy Butler's new book. He was in Rhinelander on Tuesday and even though I was busy and couldn't make it, my parents surprised me with a signed copy of his book for Christmas.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Matt - Ombudsman 12/25/2003 @ 06:12:22 PM
That book is so 5 months ago.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - No, I did not change your screen saver settings 12/26/2003 @ 04:08:44 PM
M&M's are the only candy with a thin candy shell. I'm surprised you didn't know that.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Micah - 584 Posts 12/26/2003 @ 07:56:48 PM
Reese's Pieces have a thin candy shell...and are better than M&M's.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9563 Posts 12/26/2003 @ 09:58:42 PM
Skittles also have a thin candy shell and are way better then both of those combined.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - 4691 Posts 12/27/2003 @ 07:43:48 PM
Damn 49ers screwing us over AGAIN. Christmas Eve I had the pleasure of watching the NFC Wild Card Game of 98 on the ESPN. Ruined my Xmas. Bastards! But that was quite the catch by that 49er on 3rd down. Too bad nothing came from it.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - Broadcast in stunning 1080i 12/27/2003 @ 07:47:42 PM
OWENS OWENS OWENS...HE CAUGHT IT HE CAUGHT IT!		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 12/27/2003 @ 09:26:03 PM
I watched the 1996 NFC Championship game between the Panthers and the Packers yesterday. Boy, that brought back many a good memory.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - Resident Tech Support 12/28/2003 @ 10:36:07 AM
From what I understand about the strength of victory tiebreaker (and believe me, i understand very little) there are 9 games today that will factor in that equation.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - So's your face 12/28/2003 @ 04:51:42 PM
Every team is playing just to screw the Packers. Cowboys blow. Also, I know we would be tied with the Seahawks and Cowboys if we win and Vikings win, but why would they get to go and we would have to stay? I mean I know why, but come on! We beat the Seahawks during the regular season. This whole system sucks. Lets go Pack, and Cards!		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - How do you use these things? 12/28/2003 @ 05:39:13 PM
It's just not fair.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - Ma'am, can you make sure your computer is turned on? 12/28/2003 @ 05:52:44 PM
Team A and Team B are tied at the end of the regular season. Team A beats Team B during the season. Team B goes to the playoffs instead of Team A. Ummmmm.....I think the BCS makes more sense than this.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - Get Up! Get outta here! Gone! 12/28/2003 @ 06:08:33 PM
Boldin!!!Boldin!!!Boldin!!!Boldin!!!Boldin!!!Boldin!!!he caught it, he caught it, he caught it!!!!!!		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 1.21 Gigawatts!?!? 12/28/2003 @ 06:12:38 PM
Actually he didnt catch it. They can't reveiw a force out and the refs knew they would catch hell, you could tell when he went to say the final thing and said "You can't review a force out". The Vikings got screwed by the refs again. What a surprise.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 12/28/2003 @ 06:16:10 PM
Pool(oops) got one foot in on the ground, and his other foot was on the viking defender's knee before he fell out of bounds. It was a good call by the rule. Screwed again? Does that fumble against KC ring a bell? Green Bay played pretty well too, eh.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - So's your face 12/28/2003 @ 06:18:05 PM
Oh my! It was a push out, I saw it with my own eyes. Here I was feeling sorry for myself because the Packers were playing so well and I thought it was for nothing. YES! Seahawks are going down!		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - As Seen On The Internet 12/28/2003 @ 06:30:42 PM
it was NOT a push out! his first foot barley made it in and his other foot was waaay out. We beat KC 45-20, I wouldn't say we weren't screwed because of a call in that game. You guys needed help, and you got it. It was just from the guys in stripes, not the guys in red. That entire drive was courtesy of the refs. A 40 yard ticky tack PI call and that bullshit force out. This is beats the Yancy Thigpen play as the lamest was a team ever won the division...and imagine that, it was the packers both times. Oh yeah and GB did a great job beating up on the broncos 8th string.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9563 Posts 12/28/2003 @ 06:33:28 PM
Push outs are for when a guy is clearly (like one yard in) and way up in the air and then is carried out of the field by a defender. Not for when he's 2 inches on and not close.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 12/28/2003 @ 08:27:58 PM
Happy Birthday, Jon.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Anon. Nut Can Fan (Guest) 12/28/2003 @ 10:24:44 PM
Vikings are the unluckiest franchise in the history of anything and the Packers are the luckiest		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	icbizzle - But let history remember, that as free men, we chose to make it so! 12/28/2003 @ 11:36:49 PM
LOL LOL LOL all the way to the playoffs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ps It WAS MOST DEFINITELY a push-out. I watched the game with a cowboy fan and 3 broncos fans (in other words, packers haters), and they all agreed that it was a push out. Josh McNown for MVP!!		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Anon. Nut Can Fan (Guest) 12/28/2003 @ 11:49:50 PM
that play should have never happened		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9563 Posts 12/28/2003 @ 11:51:01 PM
He was up in a "strattled" position with the one leg way behind him. His foot that was in front of him barely made it in. How would the other foot that was behind him and 2 inches off the ground at the time of the push EVER had made it to come down in. That isn't even the point. The push out rule is for when it is 110% a sure thing that a reciever would have come down in bounds. Like I said before if a guy is a yard in bounds and coming straight down when a defender hits them causing them to fly out of bounds. The intent of the rule was never to be used in this situation. The Vikings got hosed, but should never have been a position to be hosed. Sarah bought tickets to the game though and it will be her first trip to Lambeau. So I'm happy for her.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	icbizzle - But let history remember, that as free men, we chose to make it so! 12/29/2003 @ 12:02:04 AM
It was 3 nights after Christmas, and all through the Midwest; Vikings fans were counting their eggs (before they choked, I mean hatched), as Packers fans were reaching for another 12-pack, in hopes that the Cardinals could pull off a comeback. The Cardinals were losing and looking pretty bad, while visions of the first pick in the draft danced in their heads. When out in the desert, the Vikings realized that they can't win on real grass (or when it really matters), and the Cardinals did the impossible (4th and 24?); Packers haters can kiss my ass!		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9563 Posts 12/29/2003 @ 01:56:00 AM
Actually I wish it was a surprise to anyone here at page 3. We all knew we were going to lose. When you're a Viking fan you get used to knowing roughly 35 seconds into any game how it is going to end. You'll get bounced in round 2 against Philly. We'll pick 19th and use the fact that we are more under the cap than any other team to wipe the floor with you, and everyone else next year. We weren't "supposed" to do anytihng this year, most experts had us around 7-9 and the Packers running away with the division. Well it took a ref hosing, and two teams laying down for you to do it.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 12/29/2003 @ 03:00:56 AM
Poole got his first foot in, that's for sure, no arguments there. His second foot, before he got hit out of bounds, came down on a viking defender's knee while that Viking was in bounds. So technically he did get both feet inbounds. Also, there are no limitations on the "being pushed out of bounds" thing. It doesn't matter how close you are to the sidelines, but it doesn't matter now anyway. What two teams laid down?		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	icbizzle - 3619 Posts 12/29/2003 @ 11:07:58 AM
Was anyone else annoyed when the Baltimore game went to overtime and then they passed it right away instead of giving Lewis a chance to break the record?		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - Super Chocolate Bear 12/29/2003 @ 11:57:05 AM
The Raiders and Broncos		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 12/29/2003 @ 05:27:02 PM
I don't understand how you think the Raiders laid down. They played bad all year, this was no exception. The Bronco's on the otherhand did definitely sit some of their key players, so it is a justifiable thought that they laid down. However, that was not the Packers fault, they won by 28 points, many teams in the past have done that very thing(it's only smart), and the Packers along with many other teams have been shafted in the past when they need certain teams to win who sit their players at the end of the season. If the Raiders did indeed lay down, they did so during week 1.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - Resident Tech Support 12/30/2003 @ 08:00:51 PM
Nick Barnett should have won the defensive rookie of the year award. Terrel Suggs of the Ravens got it despite Barnett out tackling Suggs 112-27. Suggs did have 12 sacks, but did little else. Suggs also only started one game all year, while Barnett started 15 out of 16 games while leading his team in tackles. The fact that a rookie started this many games should be reason enough, but the 112 tackles should have sealed it. That's two Wisconsin professional athletes that got hosed on rookie of the year awards in their sports.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9563 Posts 12/30/2003 @ 09:13:35 PM
Actually Kevin Williams of the Vikings should have been the Defensive R.O.Y. He started EVERY game and had 10.5 sacks, a forced fumble, and a INT. Tackles are not an official NFL statistic and therefor can't (or at least shouldn't) be taken into consideration.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	icbizzle - I don't need to get steady I know just how I feel 12/31/2003 @ 01:01:55 PM
I'm watching the Badger game and the announcer just said, "He's having more problems than a math book." That's quite possibly the dumbest thing I have ever heard. ps Actually, THE dumbest thing I've ever heard is that tackles shouldn't be taken into consideration at all when determining who has had a better year.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - No, I did not change your screen saver settings 12/31/2003 @ 01:23:31 PM
I was not aware that tackles were not an official stat. I'm not saying you are wrong, but I just didn't know that. But, the fact that a guy was in on that many plays, along with 3 int's and 3 pass deflections says more than anything else really. Ray Lewis has never really done much except tackle everyone and he has won defensive player of the year awards in the past. Sacks are definitely impressive, and 12 by a rookie is definitely admirable, but Suggs was only in on 15 other plays. The refs just blew 2 fumble calls in a row in the Badger game.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	icbizzle - You've got to trust your instinct, and let go of regret 12/31/2003 @ 01:55:17 PM
Yah, that was pathetic. But Lee Evans just pulled off a sweet catch. He's going to be good in the NFL.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - Super Chocolate Bear 12/31/2003 @ 01:57:14 PM
Ray Lewis won because he was the leader of one of the best defenses ever. He also dominates and has the ability to single handedly take over games. Personally I think sacks are HORRIBLY overrated. But such as it is, if thats what they are looking at then K Will got screwed because he had just 1.5 less and started all year.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9563 Posts 12/31/2003 @ 02:03:09 PM
For whatever reason they are NOT an official NFL stat, so how then could the NFL award someone based on them?		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	icbizzle - 3619 Posts 12/31/2003 @ 02:14:07 PM
Um...see here's the thing. Being the leader of the best defense ever is NOT an official NFL stat either. Neither is dominating nor the ability to single handedly take over games. The awards are not based purely on official NFL stats, so why shouldn't tackles be at least considered? I'm not saying they should be the one determining factor, but you have to consider them. ps Badgers just sucked it up.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 1.21 Gigawatts!?!? 12/31/2003 @ 02:17:13 PM
I'm sure they are, but that many tackles for a MLB is nothing special		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9563 Posts 12/31/2003 @ 02:17:54 PM
Don't doooo it Sorgi		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	icbizzle - 3619 Posts 12/31/2003 @ 02:32:11 PM
The Big Ten is 0-3 so far and the Gophers are losing at the moment. BAH!		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	PackOne - 1528 Posts 12/25/2007 @ 08:41:31 AM
Merry Christmas		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - So's your face 12/25/2007 @ 09:22:11 AM
This was a good week in football. Not sure why you said Merry Christmas on it, but sure Merry Christmas, if Packer fans need a lift, this would be a good week to read.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	PackOne - Make my own decisions. That's my perogative. 12/25/2007 @ 09:33:21 AM
Jon: First of all, Merry Christmas to all our Page 3 readers. Sarah Wrote - 12/25/2007 @ 09:22:11 AM This was a good week in football. Not sure why you said Merry Christmas on it, but sure Merry Christmas, if Packer fans need a lift, this would be a good week to read.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - So's your face 12/25/2007 @ 09:40:18 AM
PackOne Wrote - 12/25/2007 @ 09:33:21 AM Jon: First of all, Merry Christmas to all our Page 3 readers. Sarah Wrote - 12/25/2007 @ 09:22:11 AM This was a good week in football. Not sure why you said Merry Christmas on it, but sure Merry Christmas, if Packer fans need a lift, this would be a good week to read. Yes but that was to our Page 3 2003 readers. This is 2007 Nutcan.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	PackOne - No matter how many MC's I eat up ... oh, it's never enough. 12/25/2007 @ 10:21:18 AM
I like to scour to scan.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.