Scott - 6225 Posts 08/17/2007 @ 02:03:53 PM
This is actually a little bit sad simply because he was considered by many of his teammates as a very hard worker. He' apparently just no good at football, and he isn't small enough to be a good story like Rudy. It's probably for the best as far as the Packers are concerned though.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9543 Posts 08/17/2007 @ 02:21:41 PM
I put the over/under at amount of time until he's a Viking at 2 weeks.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9543 Posts 08/17/2007 @ 02:40:01 PM
You know, the timing seems suspicious for this cut, and Ferguson is known to be a owner/breeder of pit bulls. Maybe the Packers found something out they didn't want to. Just tossing the thought out there, his official Packer profile says: Continues a lifetime association with pit bulls by today owning five of the dogs; his mother, Barbara, had four pit bulls while he was growing up Organized an anti-dogfight group with kennels near his home in 2003; the group taught people how to train and control aggressive dogs I wonder if the line about him forming Anti-Dogfight groups was a recent addition or not.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.
Jeremy edited this at 08/17/2007 2:42:21 pm

	Alex - Who controls the past now controls the future 08/17/2007 @ 04:24:04 PM
w00t!		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - 4671 Posts 08/18/2007 @ 08:11:49 PM
Speaking of cuts... Favre had a great performance, as has the defense through the 2nd quarter. But as soon as they hand over the reigns to A-Rod, I knew they were asking for trouble. Sure enough, couldn't even handle a snap, and worse yet, couldn't even recover it! BOO!		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 3 times.

	Jeremy - 9543 Posts 08/19/2007 @ 11:44:02 PM
Who put their money on the 'under?'		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jon - 3443 Posts 08/20/2007 @ 04:48:08 AM
That website won't load at the moment, but I assume it's about Robert Ferguson becoming a Viking or a rumor about it. Anyway, when he was cut by Green Bay, I had basically the same thought about how he'd probably end up in Minnesota. The real question now is, "how long will it be before Ferguson becomes one of our best players and then Childress decides he has a bad attitude and cuts him?" And will that be before or after Adrian Peterson is cut?		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Carlos44ec - 2079 Posts 08/20/2007 @ 07:36:21 AM
Good ol Vikings, taking our sloppy seconds...		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - How do you use these things? 08/20/2007 @ 07:57:06 AM
The Texans are also very interested in him though, so don't get your hopes up just yet.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9543 Posts 08/20/2007 @ 09:33:33 AM
Jon Wrote - 08/20/2007 @ 04:48:08 AM "how long will it be before Ferguson becomes one of our best players and then Childress decides he has a bad attitude and cuts him?" Except the Vikings just signed a guy that can't be at camp because he's mid legal issues in Florida. I guess bringing problems into the team is ok, just don't have any new/reoccurring problems once you get there.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - As Seen On The Internet 08/20/2007 @ 10:41:09 AM
Happy Birthday, Scott.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	PackOne - 1528 Posts 08/20/2007 @ 11:34:51 AM
Fergie never produced much more than one or two spectacular catches. Robert will always be known as the guy we got instead of Chris Chambers or Steve Smith. The 2001 draft had to be one of the worst in Packer history. I hope he does go to the Vikings, he will make a great addition to their IR list. I imagine he will end up in Texas - back with Sherman and the rest of the GB cast offs.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	PackOne - Make my own decisions. That's my perogative. 08/20/2007 @ 11:36:34 AM
Sarah Wrote - 08/18/2007 @ 08:11:49 PM Speaking of cuts... Favre had a great performance, as has the defense through the 2nd quarter. But as soon as they hand over the reigns to A-Rod, I knew they were asking for trouble. Sure enough, couldn't even handle a snap, and worse yet, couldn't even recover it! BOO! A-Rod is fine. If anyone in this forum has handled a snap in the rain from a back-up center in the NFL please let me know.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Carlos44ec - 2079 Posts 08/20/2007 @ 11:44:32 AM
Right here. 1979 Colts		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	PackOne - Well use me, use me, 'caus you ain't that average groupie. 08/20/2007 @ 11:56:41 AM
Carlos44ec Wrote - 08/20/2007 @ 11:44:32 AM Right here. 1979 Colts So your name is either .... QB Jerry Goldsteyn QB Bert Jones QB Greg Landry Can I have your autograph?		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - Super Chocolate Bear 08/20/2007 @ 11:59:38 AM
The snap in particular she is referring to A-Rod not "handling" is the one that was snapped over his head. Sarah's feelings about him aren't what one would call "rational."		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.
Jeremy messed with this at 08/20/2007 12:00:07 pm

	PackOne - More posts than they wanted. 08/20/2007 @ 12:02:10 PM
Fair enough. I was on the anti-Rod wagon myself. This year, he seems much better adjusted. Carlos - How did you like living in Baltimore?		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Carlos44ec - 2079 Posts 08/20/2007 @ 12:23:51 PM
Excellent! I would have rather lived in Indy, although it is a city whos downtown reeks of sewage (atleast it did when the Colts beat the Chiefs in last year's playoffs)		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.
Carlos44ec screwed with this at 08/20/2007 12:32:51 pm

	Scott - 6225 Posts 08/20/2007 @ 09:21:05 PM
Jeremy Wrote - 08/20/2007 @ 11:59:38 AM The snap in particular she is referring to A-Rod not "handling" is the one that was snapped over his head. Sarah's feelings about him aren't what one would call "rational." I'm not sure Sarah will ever have rational thought about the Packers quarterback once the post-Favre era commences.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - I hate our freedoms 08/20/2007 @ 10:33:25 PM
I'm not sure Sarah will ever have a rational thought about the a Packers quarterback once the post-Favre era commences. Fixed.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Jon - 3443 Posts 08/21/2007 @ 05:19:47 AM
Are you sure you didn't mean this: "I'm not sure Sarah will ever have a rational thought about the Packers quarterback once the post-Favre era commences."? Oh! I kid!!!! Forgive me Sarah!!!!		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 2 times.
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	Sarah - So's your face 08/21/2007 @ 08:17:25 AM
I gave you a 0 nut, so you take that how you will.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Jeremy - 9543 Posts 08/21/2007 @ 08:45:54 AM
Jon Wrote - 08/21/2007 @ 05:19:47 AM Are you sure you didn't mean this: "I'm not sure Sarah will ever have a rational thought about the Packers quarterback once the post-Favre era commences."? I was going to do that, then I thought it might be too mean. She's female, so it's sort of a redundant comment anyway.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 2 times.

	Carlos44ec - 2079 Posts 08/21/2007 @ 08:54:13 AM
shes also your wife. you'll probably be making your own [damn] dinner all week.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9543 Posts 08/21/2007 @ 11:08:15 AM
The Houston Chronicle posted a story this morning that explained the reason why receiver Robert Ferguson prefers the Vikings to the Texans. Houston coach Gary Kubiak told the paper that if Ferguson joined the Texans he would be placed on their scout team in practice this week. The Vikings evidently told Ferguson he would play immediately. "We told Robert that we'd evaluate him on the scout team in practice this week," Kubiak said in a story on the Chronicle website. "We're continuing to evaluate the receivers we have, and we've got some tough decisions to make on them. And they've been here the whole camp. We wish Robert the best of luck." That's why Ferguson and his agent, Brian Overstreet, are returning to Minnesota today to try to get a deal done with the Vikings.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.
Jeremy screwed with this at 08/21/2007 11:09:07 am

	Carlos44ec - 2079 Posts 08/21/2007 @ 11:24:37 AM
He wants it handed to him... doesn't want to work for it or prove why he's the man for the job.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9543 Posts 08/21/2007 @ 11:31:31 AM
I don't know why he would go somewhere when they effectively told him "There's a good chance you'd be wasting two crucial weeks with us as you will more likely than not be cut anyway."		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Alex - Ignorance is bliss to those uneducated 08/21/2007 @ 01:09:07 PM
Isn't the more interesting fact this; a WR that was just cut by the Packers (not exactly stacked at the position) and would be relagated to the scout team for the Texans (not exactly stacked at the position) is a hot commodity in Minnesota?		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Jeremy - 9543 Posts 08/21/2007 @ 01:39:06 PM
I guess you don't end up with a lot of talent if you cut anyone with any of it. Who'd of thunk it? (Also, Koren Robinson was a Packer pretty much in the time it took for him to pack up his locker at Winter Park.)		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Jeremy - 9543 Posts 08/21/2007 @ 02:00:27 PM
Receiver Robert Ferguson trotted on the field near the start of practice having signed a deal to join the Vikings. Ferguson was cut by the Packers on Friday.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	PackOne - Well use me, use me, 'caus you ain't that average groupie. 08/21/2007 @ 05:59:13 PM
Alex Wrote - 08/21/2007 @ 01:09:07 PM Isn't the more interesting fact this; a WR that was just cut by the Packers (not exactly stacked at the position) and would be relagated to the scout team for the Texans (not exactly stacked at the position) is a hot commodity in Minnesota? Holy falling sky Batman. For once I actually agree. I was reading some forums (go figure) and all the Minnie fans are pumped because Fergie is gonna be the "go to guy". Ferguson is an injury prone, underacheiver, who made a couple nice grabs on some Brett Favre thrown passes. I hope he is the number one guy in Minny. He can rot over there and join Sharper and Longwell as guys who will never make my Madden team. I am sure he is crushed.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 08/21/2007 @ 07:06:47 PM
Ryan Longwell hit a 54 yard "fire drill" field goal for the Vikings last week at the end of the first half. I still think he's a pretty good kicker.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Alex - Ignorance is bliss to those uneducated 08/21/2007 @ 08:20:00 PM
"With six years in the league, 12 touchdowns and 1,577 yards in his career, Ferguson is by far the most accomplished Minnesota receiver. " At least they have a vetern QB to throw to all those unexperienced receivers. Oh wait, that's right, they're starting some guy that most football fans outside the NFC North have probably never heard of. He's also only rated 77 in Madden 08.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9543 Posts 08/21/2007 @ 11:02:19 PM
Madden ratings and who makes your Madden teams is after all the most reliable and foolproof way of predicting the future we have.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Alex - 3619 Posts 08/21/2007 @ 11:11:51 PM
People get pretty serious about Madden. I'm sure a decent amount of scouting goes into those rankings. It's got to be as good as any other rankings you can find.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - As Seen On The Internet 08/21/2007 @ 11:15:29 PM
Also, Green Bay's running backs have, put together, 891 career rushing yards and 7 touchdowns. So snicker away whist our 1-2 punch puts up 250 yards per game against you; and QB 4 throws 5 INT's thanks to Fergy coughing up the entirety of your playbook. Edit: It's good to have football back!		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.
Jeremy edited this at 08/21/2007 11:15:54 pm

	Alex - 3619 Posts 08/21/2007 @ 11:28:41 PM
Running back is one position where fresh legs are almost better than experience (to a point of course). The secrets Fergi will be coughing up will have more to do with the medical facilites than the playbook.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9543 Posts 08/21/2007 @ 11:39:23 PM
Larry Johnson carried the ball 2 trillion times last year, I bet the Chiefs secretly don't even want him back.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	PackOne - It's a sin that somehow, light is changing to shadow. 08/22/2007 @ 09:59:11 AM
Jeremy Wrote - 08/21/2007 @ 11:02:19 PM Madden ratings and who makes your Madden teams is after all the most reliable and foolproof way of predicting the future we have. Jeremy your like God or something. You speak only the truth.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	PackOne - 1528 Posts 08/22/2007 @ 09:28:00 PM
A few factoids on Madden rankings. There are 1,722 players in the game. This year Peyton Manning, LaDainian Tomlinson, Brian Urlacher, Ed Reed, and Champ Bailey are your top five players. All have a 99 ranking. At the bottom are Isaiah Ekejiuba linebacker Oakland Raiders and Mark Jones of the Bucs ranked at 55. Two most "aware" players are Manning and Tom Brady at 100. Courtney Brown is the least aware at a 34. Larry Allen is the strongest and Samie Parker is the weakest. Five guys rank the players, all are former athletes and three played college football.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.
PackOne edited this at 08/22/2007 9:28:40 pm

	Jeremy - 9543 Posts 08/22/2007 @ 10:34:12 PM
I think I heard something about Devin Hester being the first 100 in speed. What does Brett Favre score in the "Gamer" category?		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.
Jeremy perfected this at 08/22/2007 10:34:46 pm

	Scott - If you aren't enough without it, you'll never be enough with it. 08/23/2007 @ 07:25:25 AM
I think he's a 100, and he's the only player with a score in that category.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	jthompto - 209 Posts 08/23/2007 @ 10:41:08 PM
Tavaris had a good training camp for me, he is up to an 80 now!		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Matt - Ombudsman 08/24/2007 @ 04:19:45 AM
Jeremy Wrote - 08/22/2007 @ 10:34:12 PM I think I heard something about Devin Hester being the first 100 in speed. What does Brett Favre score in the "Gamer" category? If Brett Favre and Derek Jeter fought in a battle of "gamerness", who would win?		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - I believe virtually everything I read. 08/24/2007 @ 08:58:45 AM
Well Brett Favre is the Brett Favreiest Brett Favre who ever Favred. So I'm going to go with him...and it's not a close battle. And Tarvaris did have a pretty good camp...supposedly. We shall see. I don't expect him to be a pro bowler right out of the gates.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.
Jeremy perfected this at 08/24/2007 9:05:56 am

	Scott - 6225 Posts 08/24/2007 @ 11:07:26 AM
Jeremy Wrote - 08/24/2007 @ 08:58:45 AM And Tarvaris did have a pretty good camp...supposedly. We shall see. I don't expect him to be a pro bowler right out of the gates. Play Brooks. Seriously. I'll cheer for the Vikes if they play Brooks at QB.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - Get Up! Get outta here! Gone! 08/24/2007 @ 11:25:13 AM
Scott Wrote - 08/24/2007 @ 11:07:26 AM Jeremy Wrote - 08/24/2007 @ 08:58:45 AM And Tarvaris did have a pretty good camp...supposedly. We shall see. I don't expect him to be a pro bowler right out of the gates. Play Brooks. Seriously. I'll cheer for the Vikes if they play Brooks at QB. edit: By Brooks I obviously mean Brooks Bollinger. Edit of edit: I meant to edit the first comment, but I apparently quoted myself. Oh well.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.
Scott perfected this at 08/24/2007 11:27:47 am

	Scott - Resident Tech Support 08/25/2007 @ 04:49:23 PM
I bought a PS2 today (yeah, so 2 years ago). And I also now own Madden 08. Good times. I'll probably get fired from my job because of it eventually.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Alex - 3619 Posts 08/27/2007 @ 09:18:46 PM
Just wanted to let everyone know that my roommate is testing out teams and players in Madden 08 practice mode to see who he should draft for his fantasy teams.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - Robots don't say 'ye' 08/27/2007 @ 09:48:45 PM
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