Lost
02/07/2007 11:13 pm
In tonight's episode Danny got shot dead by Juliet. No one liked him anyway.
Jeremy - No one's gay for Moleman 02/07/2007 @ 11:20:33 PM |
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I think it's about time I implement the spoiler tag. |
Alex - 3619 Posts 02/07/2007 @ 11:25:16 PM |
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That's not much of a spoiler really. The previews for the episode probably spoiled it more than that little factoid. Besides the first new episode in a couple months was on tonight, what else would this be about? |
Scott - Ma'am, can you make sure your computer is turned on? 02/08/2007 @ 08:47:49 AM |
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It seems like this part of the 3rd season will garner some answers as to why the "others" are on the island. We kind of figured out why and how Juliet got on the island, maybe we'll learn more soon. Also, remember the end of the 2nd season, that last 1 minute scene showed 2 guys in the arctic receiving some sort of stress call, and then they called the ex-wife/fiance of Desmond. When is that going to be revisited? Maybe the title is ironic in that it's not the characters who are lost, it's the FREAKING VIEWERS WHO HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE CRAP IS GOING ON!!!! |
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Scott messed with this at 02/08/2007 12:52:01 pm |
Alex - 3619 Posts 02/08/2007 @ 12:50:31 PM |
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Did you watch the "Survivors Guide" that was on before the new episode? Those guys basically said that the show was just about the characters and how they dealt with stuff. There is no "start to end" story plot. They're never going to answer the hundreds of plot loose ends that have been left out there. Like what was up with Walt's abilities? What killed Eko? Moot points in the writers minds because those characters are gone. Therefore we need all characters to die or disappear. And we certainly did not figure out why and how Juliet got there and we probably never will. I like your last point (other than you forgot the "not"). |
Scott - 6225 Posts 02/08/2007 @ 12:52:44 PM |
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We have a better idea about Juliet: going to do special research at a very secluded place. How is that not a pretty good clue. |
Jeremy - The pig says "My wife is a slut?" 02/08/2007 @ 01:00:09 PM |
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Because like everything else on the show it's probably a "go no where" Red Herring. |
Alex - Who controls the past now controls the future 02/08/2007 @ 01:00:19 PM |
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Well it brings up questions like how exactly did she wish for her exhusband to be hit by and bus and then he was right away? Why was Ethan there and who was the dude recruiting her? Who exactly do they work for? Why was she chosen and was she supposed to be doing with her specific research specialty? Did it have something to do with the 27 year old whose womb looked like that of 70 year old? Who was that woman? What happened to her sister? Did you she actually agree to take the position even, maybe she was coerced? How did they know her sister was pregnant when she just found out? |
Alex - But let history remember, that as free men, we chose to make it so! 02/08/2007 @ 01:02:16 PM |
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I should specify that early on when the show first started I realized it was more about the characters than the plot and I actually liked that about the show. But they've continually made up completely unbelievable circumstances or story lines without making any attempt at explaining them. Which has worn me down and thus deluded the experience for me. |
Scott - If you aren't enough without it, you'll never be enough with it. 02/08/2007 @ 01:03:07 PM |
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agreed, with the last comment. |
Jeremy - Always thinking of, but never about, the children. 02/08/2007 @ 01:11:41 PM |
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The writers have created a deserted island where anything can happen and people/supplies/technology can come and go as it pleases. The more "What the hell?" moments the more we all watch hoping something will get resolved. Was that "deprogramming booth" that kid was in how normal people became the others? Was it an experiment on him? Was it the first and last time we hear any reference to it? |
Jeremy - I believe virtually everything I read. 02/08/2007 @ 01:13:17 PM |
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Also I hate to admit it but, I think I jumped like a foot when that guy actually did get hit by a bus. |
Scott - 6225 Posts 02/08/2007 @ 01:14:18 PM |
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Ha, when I read "jumped like a foot", I pictured you jumping as a foot, not jumping approximately 12 inches. But I too jumped. |
Jeremy - Always thinking of, but never about, the children. 02/08/2007 @ 04:45:19 PM |
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You know what though? I'm sick of the others. I want to get back to "our side" of the island. (or our island, as it were) |
Jon - many posts 02/08/2007 @ 11:09:56 PM |
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I was actually going to do a lost thread. Mine was going to be how I announced that I am no longer watching the show. I quit. It's stupid and I wanted to quit half a season ago. Before the "fall season". what a joke. Anyway, my blog name was going to be called "Making up for Lost time" in which I put forward the goal of doing something useful during the time I might normally watch lost. I don't think I really did anything great this week, but hopefully I will use my time to read or accomplish some task or maybe if I'm really adventurous, to volunteer for a good cause. Or maybe even just educate myself about something going on in the world. Actually, on Wednesday this week, just before lost, I did listen to a missionary talk about living in a very remote location in Africa. Extremely educational, encouraging, challenging and a good way to gain some perspective. Anyway, the point of the idea in the first place was because I realized how big a waste watching Lost was and so I decided I should not only stop watching, but do something I don't consider a waste. Hopefully I can actually do that and maybe I'll write about it here. Also, I watched every episode of lost since midway through the first season and I have no clue who Danny and Juliet are. That's how great that show is. It could have been great though. |
Jeremy - 9543 Posts 02/09/2007 @ 09:25:37 AM |
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Sounds like a great running blog, if I didn't know you'd quit trying in like 2 weeks. Oh and Danny is a bit character you'd just recognize. Juliet is the blond that has been "taking care" of Jack. She's been arguably the main character of the last few episodes. |
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Jeremy messed with this at 02/09/2007 9:27:25 am |
Jon - 3443 Posts 02/09/2007 @ 04:55:37 PM |
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I have doubts about my dedication as well, except for that I am committed to not watching lost, and since that would require me to leave the couch and the room with the main tv, I at least have something to move me toward something productive. |
Scott - Ma'am, can you make sure your computer is turned on? 02/14/2007 @ 08:59:26 PM |
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JON!!!! LOST IS ON!!!! |
Scott - 6225 Posts 02/14/2007 @ 09:15:49 PM |
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Jon, you're missing a good episode of lost. |
Jeremy - 9543 Posts 02/14/2007 @ 09:19:31 PM |
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Crap, so am I. Good thing for the internets. |
Scott - If you aren't enough without it, you'll never be enough with it. 02/14/2007 @ 10:06:16 PM |
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Has anyone ever seen the movie Final Destination? Cuz I think the Lost writers have. |
Alex - Ignorance is bliss to those uneducated 02/14/2007 @ 10:43:31 PM |
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No one died this time, though apparently Charles is on deck. If they keep killing of the main characters are they going to start featuring the other random people who have been on the island the whole time and have somehow managed to avoid detection? I really didn't understand why Desmond wused out again. Seriously, what did he have to lose by trying to stay with his lady? Oh no, I might die instead of end up on the twilight island for 3 years. What a crappy episode to have on Valentines Day. |
Jeremy - No one's gay for Moleman 02/19/2007 @ 09:57:14 AM |
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You're a crappy episode. Seriously though, we're like 2 episodes away from having no main characters left. Maybe that's their way of putting the show out of it's misery. Also to be fair Desmond did think better of his plan to leave Penny before the "Duck Brotha!"/Cricket bat to the head incident, after which he awoke on the island. |
Alex - 3619 Posts 02/21/2007 @ 10:04:50 PM |
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Now it all makes sense! Did not the episode start by saying 3 big questions would be answered? Cause apparently I missed them. Unless the questions were, "What does Jack's tattoo mean?", "Does Jack like his sandwiches grilled or not grilled?", and "Does Jack know how to fly a kite?". Glad we could get some closure on those huge mysteries. |
Scott - 6225 Posts 02/21/2007 @ 10:17:12 PM |
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Worst Lost season ever. |
Jeremy - Pie Racist 02/22/2007 @ 10:17:30 PM |
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I was afraid to come in here because I hadn't seen the episode yet. Now I have. I think like everyone else I assumed Jack's Thai girlfriend was hiding the fact that she was a prostitute from him. When he kissed her and said "Mmmm, Salty" I almost threw up. To be fair we learned that the others live far enough away to require a giant boat and that not it's not necessarily a bad thing to be taken by them. |
Alex - 3619 Posts 02/23/2007 @ 12:10:50 AM |
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They can't live that far away. In fact they pretty much have to live on the original island. Because there was a scene at one point where Juliet is doing the book reading thing and then everyone runs outside and pretty much watches the plane crash. And then Ben sends Ethan and that other dude to the 2 crash sites, presumptiously on foot. So if anything, the giant boat was more potentially contradictory than explanatory. And the fact that what's her face chick seemed to be totally cool with the fact that Jack was locked up and they were hoping that Ana-Lucia was doing well implies to me that they are either very dense or very brainwashed or both. So if that's how you like to get down, then being taken by the others is aweso. |
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Alex screwed with this at 02/23/2007 12:10:58 am |
Jon - 3443 Posts 02/23/2007 @ 05:07:27 PM |
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Jack talk Thai? |
Alex - 3619 Posts 02/28/2007 @ 10:03:14 PM |
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That was the best episode in a long time. No complaints from me. Although for the purposes of killing people off that was a golden opportunity. |
Jeremy - 9543 Posts 02/28/2007 @ 10:14:48 PM |
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It was a bizarre episode in that we they didn't answer, or really pose, any new questions. What was Sawyer supposed to apologize for? Letting the kid go? This episode had a lot of "you're supposed to remember exactly what sentence two characters left off on 7 months ago" moments. |
Scott - 6225 Posts 03/01/2007 @ 12:05:37 PM |
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Going back to the theme of "expect anything", in season one, finding a car on the Island would have been "holy crap, where are we? There's a freakin car on the Island" (ie, the plane from season 2). Now it's like "sweet, a car, lets fix it up and go joy riding. What? dead guy in the car? No problem. Now I have a car." There was no "how did this get here way out in the jungle." | ||
Scott screwed with this at 03/01/2007 12:05:50 pm |
Jeremy - Always thinking of, but never about, the children. 03/01/2007 @ 12:20:29 PM |
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Agreed. Also no one wonders how they can go on a 1 minute run from the camp they've been at for like a year now (has the time frame been established?) and keep finding crap. |
Alex - Who controls the past now controls the future 03/01/2007 @ 12:33:00 PM |
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I guess I can maybe see how after a while and some of the crazy traumatic stuff that happened in that while, they might stop being in full detective mode all the time. Plus there was Dharma guy in there and he had a map of a road, so I mean what else are they going to be able to figure out? I really have no idea what the time frame is, but I think it's way less than a year. |
Jeremy - Robots don't say 'ye' 03/01/2007 @ 12:33:37 PM |
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I wonder at what point a line would be drawn with the viewers in this regard? You really get the sense that the writers realized they would be against the wall with the "deserted island" thing and had the following conversation: "Well what do we do now?" "I don't know have them find a ____ and use it to ____" "Well were would a ____ come from on a deserted island?" "How about we just establish early on that although it's a deserted island any thing can happen and modern conveniences will literally fall from the sky?" "Brilliant! We can jerk people around for years with this approach!" "Exactly" At this point in the show how surprised would you be if they went on a 3 minute walk from camp and found an operational shopping mall fully staffed by ninjas? |
Scott - 6225 Posts 03/01/2007 @ 12:56:35 PM |
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I think it's been about 2 months. In the middle of the second season it mentioned about 40 days, and it doesn't seem that time has moved too quickly since that point. | ||
Scott perfected this at 03/01/2007 1:02:47 pm |
Jeremy - Super Chocolate Bear 03/01/2007 @ 01:49:52 PM |
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I thought "8 months" was brought up by some character. |
Scott - Get Up! Get outta here! Gone! 03/01/2007 @ 02:07:03 PM |
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Timeline Plane crashes on 9/22/2004 Desmond turns failsafe key on the hatch 11/25/2004 That's just over 2 months from the plane crash to the end of season 2. So how much time has gone by since the beginning of season 3. |
Jeremy - I hate our freedoms 03/01/2007 @ 06:04:31 PM |
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Maybe one of the others mentioned the 8 month thing. |
Jon - 3443 Posts 03/01/2007 @ 06:41:20 PM |
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I still read this thread even though I don't watch and the thing that I thought of when the car issue came up was on Simpsons when the family watches the show "Promiscuous Idiots Island" and the secret that is revealed at the end is that it's not really an island but a peninsula. I tried looking for a clip but found nothing but did realize that the show basically recycled the joke from a previous episode. anyway, that should be what the big secret is for the Lost characters to find out now. |
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Jon edited this at 03/01/2007 6:42:33 pm |
Alex - 3619 Posts 03/01/2007 @ 06:59:22 PM |
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I had that thought way at the beginning of the show, but I think it's been pretty well established now that it is indeed an island. |
Alex - But let history remember, that as free men, we chose to make it so! 03/07/2007 @ 10:07:45 PM |
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John is so dumb sometimes. |
Scott - 6225 Posts 03/07/2007 @ 10:26:12 PM |
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good episode, I thought. |
Scott - You're going to have to call your hardware guy. It's not a software issue. 03/07/2007 @ 10:26:35 PM |
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i thought John put button pushing behind him. |
Jeremy - Cube Phenomenoligist 03/16/2007 @ 11:44:00 PM |
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So the first good episode in a long time, in which a direct question we had was answered (80 days) and we have nothing to say? |
Alex - I don't need to get steady I know just how I feel 03/17/2007 @ 02:09:08 AM |
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There seems to be a strange lack of facial hair for 80 days. I for one would have rather used the C4 on the defense system than shimmying over a tree. |
Jeremy - Super Chocolate Bear 03/17/2007 @ 03:02:41 AM |
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They shave all the time. The C4 could have set if off anyway. |
Alex - 3619 Posts 03/17/2007 @ 12:07:09 PM |
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Wouldn't your razor start to get dull eventually? And we've never seen Jack cut his hair but it's still real short. Well, not that I really know how "it" works, but presumably you have to be in a specific point between two of the stands for it to explode your brain. Seems like if you could take out 1 or 2 of the stands with an explosion you could break a hole through the perimeter that you could get through unaffected. |
Alex - I was too weak to give in Too strong to lose 03/17/2007 @ 12:22:15 PM |
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I was searching for some opinions on the brain fryer and found these nice screenshots of the map. Apparently there are tunnels all over the place. ::typo |
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Alex screwed with this at 03/31/2007 11:54:40 am |
Scott - Get Up! Get outta here! Gone! 03/28/2007 @ 10:18:11 PM |
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They are not dead!!! |
Jeremy - Always thinking of, but never about, the children. 03/29/2007 @ 05:59:19 PM |
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They are now. |
Alex - You've got to trust your instinct, and let go of regret 04/14/2007 @ 10:28:21 PM |
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I'm still waiting for the buried alive people to dig themselves out. It was only like 4 feet of pretty dry looking sand. Anyway I missed it Wednesday and watched it just now online. I actually thought Jack might have given in to the darkside and Juliet wasn't really a superhot two-timing evil doer. But in a show that's been completely unpredictable it was time to fool everyone by doing the predictable thing I guess. I find it odd that no one has even brought up the idea of moving into town since the others apparently abandoned it. I supose the odds are high that the others would return at some point, but so what. They could enjoy themselves for a while and then force the action by being there when the others returned. Certainly beats being infiltrated by the others while living in shelters on the beach. |
Jeremy - 9543 Posts 04/15/2007 @ 03:02:25 AM |
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That was the first thing I thought of when they were headed back. |
Scott - 6225 Posts 04/15/2007 @ 12:27:37 PM |
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I concur. Given the choice, I'd take a bed with a house, walls, and a roof over a lean-to any day. |
Alex - I don't need to get steady I know just how I feel 05/01/2007 @ 07:14:48 PM |
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Now here's a TV show blog that I can't believe hasn't gotten any action recently. Unless it's because last week's episode was just so crazy-retarded that everyone's mind imploded (yeah that's right, it was way beyond exploding status). |
Alex - 3619 Posts 05/09/2007 @ 10:03:09 PM |
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Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatttttttttttt?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? |
Jeremy - I believe virtually everything I read. 05/10/2007 @ 06:25:05 PM |
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Jeremy screwed with this 2 times, last at 05/10/2007 6:27:10 pm |
Jeremy - As Seen On The Internet 05/10/2007 @ 06:30:48 PM |
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Seriously though. what the hell |
Scott - 6225 Posts 05/10/2007 @ 10:35:27 PM |
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He's not dead. It looked more like a flair gun than a real gun. And he probably would have died much quicker if he actually was going to die. |
Jeremy - Always thinking of, but never about, the children. 05/11/2007 @ 08:24:50 AM |
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I don't think he's going to die either. That, however, was the least "what the hell" moment of the entire show. |
Alex - But let history remember, that as free men, we chose to make it so! 05/11/2007 @ 01:48:15 PM |
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Indeed. Plus this: Scott Wrote - 05/10/2007 @ 10:35:27 PM And he probably would have died much quicker if he actually was going to die. makes no sense at all. And I assume you meant flare gun. Which I don't remember it looking like a flare gun at all, particularly since there was no flare in John's gut. So maybe you did in fact mean flair gun, whatever the hell that is. As far as whether he's going to die or not, I think it has to be 50-50. It's pretty well established by now that anything can happen. Like a guy talking to a guy that another can't see and then the room going twilight zone and the invisible man speaking to the guy that can't see him while at the same time the guy who could see him apparently didn't hear what was said. Actually Ben shooting John was the most normal, predictable, explainable, rational thing that happened in this episode. |
Jeremy - No one's gay for Moleman 05/11/2007 @ 01:59:25 PM |
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A gun owned by ex wrestler Rick Flair? |
Scott - Ma'am, can you make sure your computer is turned on? 05/11/2007 @ 04:08:37 PM |
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ok, it probably wasn't a flare gun, but it looked weird. And I guess TV deaths don't exactly mimic reality. But this is the guy who was crippled, I don't think a bullet to the stomach is gonna stop him. |
Matt - 3941 Posts 05/12/2007 @ 04:30:53 AM |
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Is he any relation to Ric Flair? |
Jeremy - 9543 Posts 05/12/2007 @ 10:11:56 AM |
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Ring name(s) Ric Flair Rick Flair Black Scorpion Nature Boy |
Matt - Washington Bureau Chief 05/12/2007 @ 02:47:06 PM |
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If he ever truly wrestled under the name "Rick Flair" it was probably so long ago, he doesn't even remember it. It's like referring to Hakeem Olajuwon as Akeem, only worse, since Olajuwon actually played a not insignificant portion of his college/pro career as Akeem. |
Alex - 3619 Posts 05/16/2007 @ 09:04:39 PM |
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Sweet!!! |
Scott - 6225 Posts 05/17/2007 @ 08:49:22 AM |
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That was a good episode. |
Jeremy - 9543 Posts 05/18/2007 @ 11:03:42 AM |
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It was ok. Nothing "what the hell"ish happened until the end. (Which was actually a good twist.) Otherwise though nothing really happened. Nothing really got resolved from last week and nothing really resolved itself this week. |
Micah - They just want the damn ash of that field 04/23/2009 @ 08:39:39 AM |
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Thread Resurrection!! Seriously, if I turn on the TV to see one more crappy recap episode with that annoying narrator, my anger will increase exponentially. Funny how you guys spent a couple days discussing whether John was actually dead when Ben shot him. |
Alex - 3619 Posts 04/23/2009 @ 01:36:50 PM |
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It was advertised as "a new twist on the Oceanic 6" or something like that so I watched the whole thing waiting for something new to be divulged...still waiting...let the commercial fast forward run through the show a little...still waiting...bastards. One thing that it did remind of, was how no one apparently questioned the fact that the plane was found on the bottom of the ocean with all the passengers in it, and then all of sudden 5 of them show up alive. Everyone was ok this!!! Doesn't that mean there were 5 extra bodies in the plane on the ocean floor? |
Matt - Nutcan.com's MBL 05/24/2010 @ 01:49:34 AM |
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Well that was a waste. |
Scott - 6225 Posts 05/24/2010 @ 09:48:23 AM |
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What funny is that I've watched 1 episode in the last 3 seasons and I was no less confused by the last episode than everyone who had watched every episode. |
Jeremy - 9543 Posts 05/24/2010 @ 10:07:11 AM |
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Yeah, the only thing "answered" was the side jumping that they really only invented when it was time to "start answering questions". They really didn't answer anything about anything island related, or prior to this season. |
Scott - You're going to have to call your hardware guy. It's not a software issue. 05/24/2010 @ 11:49:49 AM |
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like, where did the lady who raised Jacob come from, or what happened to Jin and Sun's baby now that they drowned together, or why wasn't Michael in the church with them...The list goes on and on. Alex Wrote - 04/14/2007 @ 11:28:21 PM I'm still waiting for the buried alive people to dig themselves out. And what about these people? Why weren't they in the church? |
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Alex - Refactor Mercilessly 05/24/2010 @ 10:27:43 PM |
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Alex Wrote - 02/08/2007 @ 12:50:31 PM There is no "start to end" story plot. They're never going to answer the hundreds of plot loose ends that have been left out there. Understatement of the century. Just watched it right now. Since I've watched every episode I was emotionally invested enough to actually enjoy the first 90% of the finale, but then they sort of kind of made a half-assed attempt to explain away things and it felt like a slap in the face. Either tie things up semi-logically, which was impossible at this point as far as I can imagine, or go out with something a little less cheesy and lame then "everyone dies at some point", "there is no 'here' or 'now'", and a magical fade to white. There had to be a better way to do the last 10 minutes. I need to try and find those alternate endings... |
Alex - Ignorance is bliss to those uneducated 05/24/2010 @ 10:52:04 PM |
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Guess those weren't real (in case I wasn't the only one who previously saw the commercial for alternate endings and who didn't know they were fake) http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/5417046/lost_alternate_endings_are_actually.html?cat=2 |
Jeremy - Cube Phenomenoligist 05/25/2010 @ 10:43:22 AM |
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I haven't thoroughly researched opinions on the finale, but with just my passing observations it seems to me that almost everyone who liked it was female. It had a smultzy ending, and women seem to equate "made me cry" with "must have been spectacular." As usual any "answer" to a question is poor at best, and just raises further questions. None of the big questions are answered. |
Alex - But let history remember, that as free men, we chose to make it so! 05/25/2010 @ 01:16:30 PM |
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The one question that I half expected to get some answer for was the flash sideways, but there was absolutely no explanation given and it makes no sense at all. |
Micah - They just want the damn ash of that field 05/25/2010 @ 02:17:24 PM |
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I'll be the one to say I liked it. And for the record, I just did a random search for reviews and the first 2 that came up were both by men and both overwhelmingly positive (BBC and NPR). I guess I don't really get the confusion all that much about the flash sideways timeline. The BBC review is pretty much exactly what I interpreted it as and if you watched the Jimmy Kimmel thing afterward, Matthew Fox pretty much says that's what it was. I was pretty satisfied at where this season went overall, and didn't really need to find out who built a giant Egyptian statue in order to be happy with the show overall. Scott Wrote - Yesterday @ 12:49:49 PM like, where did the lady who raised Jacob come from, or what happened to Jin and Sun's baby now that they drowned together, or why wasn't Michael in the church with them...The list goes on and on. They answered the question about Michael earlier this season, and the lady who raised Jacob was the White House press secretary, who must have been recruited to the island post-Washington. |
Jeremy - I hate our freedoms 05/28/2010 @ 12:14:04 PM |
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Just for the record, I didn't dislike it per se, it just wasn't what it was advertised to be. As an episode it was fine. It's just that they hyped all season that this was the year questions would start getting answered. We still don't really know why that island, what the island really was, what the light was, and how/why it was. We only got tidbits like the implication that the light (which like the sideways flashes was only introduced as another thing TO explain in the season that was supposed to start tying the existing story together) keeps everyone alive, as if that needs no further explanation. We still don't know what the electromagnetism has to do with anything, what Dharma was doing, and a whole bunch of other things. My co worker doesn't watch Lost and she mentioned after catching wind that a lot of people disliked it that all series finales are disappointing. I told her that's true, but this was a bit different than usual. In this case it would be like you spent six years readying some great who-dun-it murder mystery novel with all sorts of plot twists and unknowns, and then the book ends with all the victims being alive in some afterlife, but doesn't actually answer anything. It could be a touching ending, but that's not what you were "in it" for, and you'd really have to come out of the experience thinking that the author's approach to writing was "wouldn't it be kick-ass if ___ happened here" but really had no big picture story what-so-ever. So it's not even like just the ending was disappointing, it almost retroactively makes the book disappointing, because it wasn't really even a "story", so much as it was a list of things that happened. Early on in Lost I remember them tying one mystery to another and thinking that it was clever. |
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