Google/Miserable Failure

	Jeremy - 9543 Posts 12/09/2003 @ 09:39:12 PM
It doesn't hurt that he is a Miserable Failure either. Anyone who would be enough of a Miserable Failure to get a large number of people on the internet to come together to do anything must be a Miserable Failure ........Miserable Failure		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Micah - Bring me the finest muffins and bagels in all the land. 12/10/2003 @ 02:08:25 AM
Hey Howard Dean got million of people on the internet to give him money for a picture of him eating a sandwich. Of course, he could very well be a miserable failure.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Matt - 3941 Posts 12/10/2003 @ 02:37:56 AM
So, are you saying that he's miserable at being a failure, or a failure at being miserable? Doesn't matter really, I agree with either way.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - So's your face 12/10/2003 @ 08:26:07 AM
I would be miserable if i was a failure too, but I'm not so I'm doing ok.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 12/10/2003 @ 10:17:05 AM
These ones go to 11		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 12/10/2003 @ 10:19:10 AM
I don't know if y'all read it, but I wrote a letter to the editor to the Spectator that was published on Monday about President Bush and his trip to Iraq. I've recieved my first piece of hate mail for it. I was so proud.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Matt - 3941 Posts 12/10/2003 @ 11:38:48 AM
Scott, I just read that letter today and you couldn't be more wrong. He gave up spending time with his family to go and visit those who couldn't. Did you see the soldiers he met? They looked, to me, like they were glad that he was there. Sure, he got publicity for it, but he is the President and the press sort of follows him around. Should he refrain from doing anything that might get positive press? Of course not.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.
Matt perfected this at 04/03/2007 2:04:20 pm

	Scott - Ma'am, can you make sure your computer is turned on? 12/10/2003 @ 01:55:11 PM
My point wasn't the press he got for it. The issue I'm concerned with is that instead of solving the Iraq problem he goes there instead. While moralle is good, mission success is what needs to be the focus. That's what I felt, and that's how I still feel.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Micah - 584 Posts 12/10/2003 @ 02:26:24 PM
I read an interesting editorial about how he should have gone and spent Thanksgiving with the families and children of the people he sent there and the people who died and listen to what they have to say about the war. I mean, come on, do you really think this was about bringing morale to the troops when a president is falling in approval every week. He shouldn't refrain from things that will give him good press, but he shouldn't have a team of people thinking up ways to create it, although every president does. And believe me, there are a lot of soldiers over there who do not want to be there. Oh yeah, and big ups to my boy MJ: I supported you from the start.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Matt - 3941 Posts 12/10/2003 @ 05:34:37 PM
You talk as if the President going to Iraq and the success of the war are mutually exclusive. While I don't pretend that the war is going along without problems, it's definitely not the "Quagmire" that the democrats pretend it is.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9543 Posts 12/10/2003 @ 08:40:00 PM
I think it's a good thing he went there. That way he can explain right to the troops face's that the only reason they are still there is because it's not quite close enough to election day to bring everyone home. Also yes it does show the troops that he is willing to put them above his family on thanksgiving but there are two major flaws with thinking it would be a rousing moral booster. For one he got to show up wave, smile, eat turkey, and get on a plane home. Secondly, whether or not you agree with the war, he is the reason they are there. The fact that a few soldiers looked happy to meet him doesn't prove anything. It would be an honor to meet the president regardless of how much of a Miserable Failure he is.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - Super Chocolate Bear 12/10/2003 @ 08:42:45 PM
By the way is anyone is wondering what letter of Scott's they are talking about it's right here.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Matt - Washington Bureau Chief 12/10/2003 @ 09:25:06 PM
Sure, lets bring all the troops home right now. Then when Iraq collapses because of it, you can explain why soldiers sacrificed for naught. To get out before Iraq is capable of handling itself would be a huge mistake.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - Super Chocolate Bear 12/10/2003 @ 10:39:22 PM
I agree but we could maintain a presence there without having our entire fricken armed forces there with the reserves and everything.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Micah - 584 Posts 12/10/2003 @ 11:34:57 PM
Its called UN Control, and that is what should be happening, not total US control with the barring of France and Germany from contracts.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Micah - I'm on a boat! Everybody look at me cause I'm sailing on a boat! 12/10/2003 @ 11:36:44 PM
I don't want to meet him I'd probably put a stick in his eye.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Micah - 584 Posts 12/10/2003 @ 11:37:47 PM
And by the way you are 28,056 on my altavista toolbar in the school computer lab		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 12/10/2003 @ 11:42:37 PM
I just want to say that it is refreshing to see that political chatter can actually be level headed and civilized. I recieved an email about my letter that was filled with quite a bit of hatred towards me and harsh generalizations that grouped me in with grouse irrationality. I'm just glad to hear that even some people who may disagree with what I said (and those who agree with me) are doing so in a very constructive manner. Sorry if I sound like a study hall monitor, but it was just refreshing.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jon - many posts 12/11/2003 @ 12:39:52 AM
A question to consider is: has any politician since the dawn of cable tv made any "non-political" move? I think it was obviously a political move by the President. It helped build support for him and for the efforts in Iraq. But I would ask you to consider the political motives of the politicians and non-politicians alike who criticize Bush and his policies. It's not that I question their sincerity necessarily, but let's not forget that the President is not alone in "playing politics." In other words, I do think it's a bit naive to think that Bush did this solely for the troops, but it is just as naive to think that other politicians aren't using the war to gain political ground of their own. And I don't say this to justify the actions of any person doing such a thing, only to add more perspective to the topic. I have a feeling discussions such as this might sound the same, only reversed if the President were a Democrat. Maybe, maybe not. It's certainly interesting to think about. On a similar note, I doubt that the visit hindered the progress of our leaders in regards to them ending the conflict in a timely manner.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Matt - Ombudsman 12/11/2003 @ 05:25:21 AM
At this point, I'm not sure I'd trust the U.N. to control a bake sale, let alone the rebuilding of a country.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 12/11/2003 @ 07:28:54 AM
I'd say there's too much bloody perspective now isn't there.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Micah - 584 Posts 12/11/2003 @ 08:43:21 AM
I think the UN is just as qualified as George Bush. At least the UN wouldnt be handing out oil contracts to their former companies and buddies.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	johnny (Guest) 08/14/2004 @ 06:47:43 AM
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